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Old May 18, 2023 | 04:18 PM
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You calling me a liar??? Exaggerated issues? BMW literally put an electric motor in a bucket that is destined to fill with water. They could have easily relocated the tiny motor inside the trunk area and had no issues. It was "designed to fail", and the repair cost is over $5000. ASK ME HOW I KNOW. WATCH THE VIDEO.
https://youtu.be/CU3HSwL6grM?t=130
All cars have issues. Some are actually idiotic design flaws, manufacturing defects, or perhaps clever revenue generators. What else can it be when everyone says BMW has the highest level of German engineering...
Had this issue with my 2006Z4M. Crappy design indeed but replacement motor and install was < 1k for me at an Indep shop.
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Old May 18, 2023 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by plmmd
OP here- yes I have initiated the process with GM have a case number and officer- but there is little accomplished aside from giving me two or three day old information. Im told they will work with me once the vehicle is completed and will attempt "to make it right" but no one tells me what that means.

Ive emailed Mary B directly with no response.

In regard to the service advisor I have called perhaps 4 or 5 times over the past month- certainly not a bothersome number of times. The only times the service advisor called me were the two times he returned my call. I have never received a unsolicited call from him.

I have spoken to many about this issue as a bit of a car guy I have a large network of friends and enthusiasts. I fully realize that each one I tell will spread this information through their network, Im not spreading rumor or innuendo merely fact, GM and the dealer haven't handled this well and have alienated me from the brand
I understand your position. You have had a very bad experience with a new vehicle. The service department at the dealership has come up short of expectation and dealership management has failed you.. I won’t criticize your decision. Just remember that your experience is with the dealership, not the manufacturer. They have done what they can.

Wishing you luck wherever you land.
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Old May 18, 2023 | 07:10 PM
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Really surprised they did not at least give you a loaner vehicle. I thought that was mediatory for a car being serviced under warranty?
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Old May 18, 2023 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kage65
Really surprised they did not at least give you a loaner vehicle. I thought that was mediatory for a car being serviced under warranty?
If they don't provide a comparable car and you hit 30 days, here in Texas that's a lemon.
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Old May 18, 2023 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kage65
Really surprised they did not at least give you a loaner vehicle. I thought that was mediatory for a car being serviced under warranty?
No, most US manufacturers do not provide a loaner vehicle when your vehicle is being serviced. Most times it's left to the discretion of the dealership.
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Old May 19, 2023 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick49
I was not even the original purchaser but had a motor failure on a '99 Porsche 911 that was 7 years old. I had a good rapport with the Porsche dealer here and had them go to bat for me with the district reps for PNA. In about 3 weeks I had a new motor installed at no charge to me except the cost of R&R and fluids which was $1000. The $20K cost of the motor was "goodwilled" by Porsche and came with a 2 year warranty. This failure was deemed a mfg defect due to a porous head casting that caused coolant to mix with engine oil.

My Subaru Crosstrek was discovered to have a potential valve spring issue after I'd owned it 4 years, and a voluntary recall was implemented. This, a year after the warranty expired. Subaru removed my motor and replace all the valve springs, did an oil and filter change and offered me a brand new loaded Outback to drive for the week my car was in the shop. My total cost, was zero, just return the Outback with a full tank as I received it.

This stuff happens all the time. It's how it is handled by the dealer or manufacturer that makes all the difference. I've pretty much decided for me the C8 is not worth the aggravation of having to be kicked around by GM and fight like hell to get anything done to my satisfaction. Been there in '85 with my last new "Vette purchase, don't want to go there again...
Then why do you continue to come on this forum to bash GM and the Corvette? You don't like GM or Corvette yet here you are spreading your hate every chance you get.
GM gave me two brand new Cadillac's when I had unresolved issues with them. I never complained or demanded anything from them. My dealer and the reginal manager offered me brand new replacements on two cars that were two years old with 30 thousand miles on them. My GM experiences have been very positive over the years including many repairs after my warranty expired. That's where a good relationship with your local dealership can pay dividends.
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Old May 19, 2023 | 08:00 AM
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With 2 Tx leaks nd finally a Tx re[placement, nothing but great rewards driving my Game Changer and treatment by my dealership. Even when GM did not have a replacement Tx, my dealership located one from another dealer and had it shipped in. I suspect that there is more going on in the background and why the selection of a dealership is so important.

Wishing you the best. There are bigger things to get upset about - like one's health.
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Old May 19, 2023 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Babycross2011
Sorry you’re dealing with this. Same thing happened to me 6 months ago. After 30 days you are eligible through GM for a car payment compensation if you have one. Call GMs 1800 number not your dealership. I got a car payment check and a 100k mile or 7 year extended warranty on the engine as well. So far it’s good as new. Ps get started now and stay persistent, they will drag it out but don’t give up.
Does this apply for any reason past 30 days? My car has been at the dealer for almost 60 days, but not for engine replacement or major mechanical failure.

EDIT: Can someone link documentation supporting this clause? I've never head of this.
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Old May 19, 2023 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Red rag
The new engine sitting at the dealership 18 days before installation is unacceptable. Not sure how many of you folks are blasting the OP for being pissed. Imagine if something shipping to you from Amazon took 18 days. OP stated it sat on the premises for 18 days after shipping. Get your Christmas present on Christmas Day and wait 2.5 weeks to open it.
While everyone is jumping on the dealership for the 18-day delay before installing the new engine, realize that most dealers selling Corvettes typically have only one certified Corvette/Camaro service specialist. It could be the service specialist was on vacation during those 18 days, or on paternity leave, or had a health issue. In other words, there might be a legitimate excuse for the delay. What we can jump all over the dealership for is not communicating this to the customer.
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Old May 19, 2023 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JDSC8VETTE
Then why do you continue to come on this forum to bash GM and the Corvette? You don't like GM or Corvette yet here you are spreading your hate every chance you get.
GM gave me two brand new Cadillac's when I had unresolved issues with them. I never complained or demanded anything from them. My dealer and the reginal manager offered me brand new replacements on two cars that were two years old with 30 thousand miles on them. My GM experiences have been very positive over the years including many repairs after my warranty expired. That's where a good relationship with your local dealership can pay dividends.
I visit the forum because I was truly excited about the ME C8 and wanted to buy one. I just keep hoping all the trans issues were just a first production of the first model year issue. I also like the simplicity of the pushrod V8, but it doesn't look like GM can get that right either. GM deserves bashing and so do POS dealers that don't give a **** about customers once they consummated the sale. My reason for continued visits, is I still like the car and am hoping these issues will pass, but it doesn't look like they will.

I keep hoping I'll read a post, like, "My trans warning light came on, the dealer was notified and immediately had my car flatbedded to the dealer. They will have their head tech look into it asap and gave me a new Hummer to drive until my car is fixed. I needed a new trans and the repair will take about a week."

Just letting the GM diehards know that this is how other manufacturers handle defective products they sell you. They take responsibility, apologize, bend over backwards to keep you loyal to the brand. It makes a difference.

I wish Mary CEO would have an experience where she was driving a new Corvette, had a trans related failure in BFE, had to pull over, sit in her car for a couple of hours, was unable to attend a corporate meeting where she was in charge and deal with all the stress involved.
Then the dealer, not knowing who she was, was pretty unconcerned, told her to call Uber or Lyft and they would look at it in the next couple of weeks or whenever they finished the other work in the shop, meanwhile leaving her car outside.

As a business owner for 50 years, I don't treat customers I don't like as poorly as GM dealers treat theirs. I've bought 5 new GM cars/trucks, yes I'm a dumb *** I thought all dealers were A-holes.

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Dealer issue 99%. If there was a way for GM to punish them...the remaining 1%
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Old Apr 1, 2025 | 05:18 PM
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I've owned everything from Porsche, Lexus, Mercedes, Corvette etc etc. It comes down to the dealership. I've tried several Chevy dealership for just general service and found they differ a lot. I found a good one. I will admit my best service and customer care was at Lexus dealer.
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Old Apr 1, 2025 | 10:10 PM
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A typical GM dealership doesn’t have a dozen technicians capable of doing an engine replacement in a Corvette.
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by blckss
That's a pretty big job. What are your expectations? Everything is taking longer in today's atmosphere.

I'm not giving a free pass here to the dealership, but a month to replace a complicated major mechanical piece with parts delays and shortages of labor etc, doesn't seem that bad.
My main rub with everything would be no rental car. It'd be a shitbox by comparison, but they should be doing at least that. Without that I'd be tracking lemon law info.
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My main rub with everything would be no rental car. It'd be a shitbox by comparison, but they should be doing at least that. Without that I'd be tracking lemon law info.
I agree, go to a Lexus store, and just for an oil change, I get a loaner.
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I have loaners too, my Nissan van or either motorcycle.
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My 24 had an engine replacement at 7500 miles for a similar issue to OP. I live in Hawaii so the timeline ends up being a little longer due to shipping times and the time difference when the dealership has to communicate with the GM technicians. It ended up being about 2 months to the day. I considered lemon but I didn't want to deal with the hassle if possible. I opted to let them replace the engine. Like others have said, it's not super complicated but at the same time there are limited folks trained on that particular job. GM called me weekly with updates although it was usually time late since I was in good contact with my service advisor. In the end, GM paid me around $2700 for the time the car was down and provided additional coverage on the engine and components for 100K. They offered a loaner but I have a truck and 2 motorcycles so I declined that offer. Now 2 months later, the new engine is broken in and doing fine. I'm glad it's fixed as it's such a fantastic car but at the same time I'm disappointed that the most expensive vehicle I've ever owned is also the most problematic. Before this I had a blown 400a fuse block that stranded me in the middle of rush hour traffic without the ability to move the car. Hoping for no further drama!
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So 35 days ago my 13k mile 2021 HTC had a bearing rod failure and smoked 2 cylinders. The engine was to be replaced. The engine sat at the dealership for 18 days until they installed it. Was scheduled to be ready yesterday and now I'm told the starter has failed and a new one wont be available until next week, maybe. That will be 42 days out of service. I'm so done with the brand especially the way the servicing dealer has placed no priority on a "halo" car and has provided ZERO communication. Their lack of concern has reinforced my dismay with the brand.

I do speak with many people and will spread the word among my peers. GM has so far done nothing to make this right. I currently using my own personal vehicle as i wasn't offered any loaner from the servicing dealership. Im still paying to insure this vehicle which is sitting unused.
Funny, I've bought brand new hondas and toyotas over my 35 year adult life. Never had any mechanical problems. i did test drive both a brand new Corvette and Mustang before I bought a brand new Honda S2000. The mustang top refused to latch and the corvette smoked and smelled of burning oil...both brand new cars.Maybe we should just give up on making cars in America.
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Just joined, first post. Why are you here? Just bored?


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Funny, I've bought brand new hondas and toyotas over my 35 year adult life. Never had any mechanical problems. i did test drive both a brand new Corvette and Mustang before I bought a brand new Honda S2000. The mustang top refused to latch and the corvette smoked and smelled of burning oil...both brand new cars.Maybe we should just give up on making cars in America.
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Originally Posted by plmmd
So 35 days ago my 13k mile 2021 HTC had a bearing rod failure and smoked 2 cylinders. The engine was to be replaced. The engine sat at the dealership for 18 days until they installed it. Was scheduled to be ready yesterday and now I'm told the starter has failed and a new one wont be available until next week, maybe. That will be 42 days out of service. I'm so done with the brand especially the way the servicing dealer has placed no priority on a "halo" car and has provided ZERO communication. Their lack of concern has reinforced my dismay with the brand.

I do speak with many people and will spread the word among my peers. GM has so far done nothing to make this right. I currently using my own personal vehicle as i wasn't offered any loaner from the servicing dealership. Im still paying to insure this vehicle which is sitting unused.
The C8's true achiles heel isnt reliability. Not even of the DCT. It's true weakness is GM's level of customer service universally.

There are a few great service depts at diamond in the rough dealers, but they are the acception not the rule. I enjoyed my C8 while I had it and thankfully it ran flawlessly for those 2 years, but I doubt I'll ever buy another. If I ever get another vette it will be a restomod C2 with modern suspension that can be serviced at a competent indy. Or a superformace grand sport continuation car.
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