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I know we are still waiting for Zr1 and Zora information but wondering when we will start seeing credible C9 leaks. Also about the supposed SUV. Or wait lists or discussion around what people would like to see for a C9. Would be nice to have a forum for such discussions without clogging this one.
Art
-- I see no such mandate anywhere!
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Our infrastructure in the US isnt remotely ready for 100% EV.
Even after pure ICE only cars stop being sold, it will be decades before existing ones filter out of the marker en masse as used cars.
Thank **** I'll be dead by then.
Art
It appears the leftists may be wrong on this one. EVs appear to be a bridge not an end solution. GM, VW and Toyota have stated they have better technologies coming and wisely are not diving into the EV myths. Ford did and had a horrible year ending with their CEO shuttering the EV pickup plant. With only 9% of sales, leveling off quickly it appears politicians cant ram these things down Americans throats. The future appears to be a more hybrid approach and/or hydrogen and ammonia powered vehicles. Yes there appears to be some much better solutions coming. The same problems that plagued electrics 100 yrs ago are still the same problems today. Horrible range and lack of convienient charging available. I have a friend dumping his Tesla after one year. Being sold on a 400mi range he almost ran out on a 212 mi trip. If you drive just around town it may work, but most Americans drive distances. The other problem.......Tesla battery packs are $22k with a life of 8-10 yrs. Throw away cars at that point. Then the lefties will whine about battery waste leaching into the ground. Right now there is no recycling progression for lithium batteries. We won't even discuss the infrastructure improvements that will have to be made.....it will be like building the interstate system nationwide.
I remember when I started college in 1960 that fusion power was just around the corner. Yep hydrogen fuel cells are expensive but viable. However, I worked for a company that was the leading producer/supplier of Hydrogen. In the mid 1980's my counterpart in Market Devlopment was working on Hydrogen supply on all Interstates for 18 wheelers. Only issue was Hydrogen was being produced from petrochemical waste streams!
Oh sure, as all the zealots like to say, it's easy, just get it from water. But this is not high school Chem Lab were you used much more electrical battery energy to produce Hydrogen than that the amount produced cold generate.! Find an economical method to do that. Yep, folks have been trying for a long time but production, storage and distribution are major issues.
GM has spent billions on EV Battery and car production, don't see them switching to Hybrids. Sure my E-Ray (at 3800, made last Wednesday, February 7) was produced BUT that design started when the C8 did in 2012. IMO for a version that is similar BUT would require forced Stop/Start and only start the ICE when the electric motor accelerated the car to ~45 mpg, where most energy is wasted (using Prius type software.)
We may see that as in April 2022 the requirement that was stopped by a Pen in January 2017 that would have the Corvette required to achieve 39 mpg in 2026 (and all other cars on average ~54 mpg) was reinstated in April 2022. It was modified and states the average car will be required to get 49 mpg in 2026. Unlike the first Plan no details on how measured. IMO those will be out after January 2025!
We'll see.
Last edited by JerryU; Feb 16, 2024 at 02:45 PM.





I know we are still waiting for Zr1 and Zora information but wondering when we will start seeing credible C9 leaks. Also about the supposed SUV. Or wait lists or discussion around what people would like to see for a C9. Would be nice to have a forum for such discussions without clogging this one.
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* Station wagons
* Minivans
* Exterior wood paneling
The problem is battery electric cars aren't better at anything than gasoline cars. In fact, they are worse in just about every category. There is no business case for them. They are only here because of government intervention.
Art
I believe the C9 will by hybrid, with plug-in hybrid optional. Hybrid auto sales have been on the upswing in the last few years, because they are an economical solution to improving fuel economy.

















