no C9 speculation
PS May have to use your pic for another EV C9 poster with Mary's Pic and words. Yep, I do believe Mary and company challenge getting young folks excited about EVs. They will have no choice when time comes to buy even grocery getters. Can't worry about us "older folk!"
Last edited by JerryU; Aug 28, 2023 at 07:57 AM.
As I speculated in my December 2019 PDF and the leaked article November 2019 mentioned, there were more Corvette hybrids on the way after the "Performance Hybrid" now called the E-Ray. My PDF states Ferrari, who had one of the first "Performance Hybrids" La Ferrari in 2013 as they like GM thought the ~39 mpg requirement for 2 seat sports cars outlined in the 1174-page government report AND press release was the future. Unfortunately, the zealots have moved the goal post and now ONLY zero fossil fuels will be acceptable.
As I stated it was just a question of "mostly" software to turn a "Performance Hybrid" into a high mpg vehicle. Just have to make it a Prius Type with "FORCED" Stop/Start and in "Normal Cruising" only turn the ICE on when you reach ~45 mph. Most Sports Car folks do not want either! Both Ferrari and GM would wait until a "government" took the blame (in the US that was to start in 2017 and the blended "average" of all Corvette's as well as Silverado's where required to achieve ~39 mpg in 2025.) DON'T NEED A STINKING PLUG to do that. Heck a non-plug-in Toyota Prius can achieve >50 mpg in the EPA test!
The advantage is when driving aggressively the electric and ICE can operate simultaneously. EPA tests, City and Highway only measures mpg in their fixed required accelerate to specified speeds, brake and repeat. It only uses ~75 hp and little throttle. In fact, most of the time that is how folks drive!
Yep GM and others are dedicated to follow what is being pushed, zero fossil fuels in 2035 (in US, Europe, Scandinavia etc.) GM and others need to get younger folks "wanting" EVs not just feeling they are being forced! Took blame for the poster with your credited pic!
Last edited by JerryU; Aug 28, 2023 at 09:58 AM.
Who is "they"? GM hasn't, and won't, officially announce anything about future products until they're ready to be revealed.






https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...iency-standard
For those that won't open the Link this is the title: Administration Finalizes Historic 54.5 MPG Fuel Efficiency Standards. The report shows what each "car/light truck family" was required to achieve in 2025. For the Corvette family and Silverado Family on average ~39 mpg. AND NOPE not a gas guzzle tax! Rich Corvette Buyers could not just spend money and destroy the World with CO2 emissions while others scarified! It was a prohibitive fine of the manufacturer.
BUT the report also alludes to it being easy to convert from ICE's. Just raise the gasoline tax! Yep just like Europe's ~$10/gallon gas tax was most used to support their social programs, same could happy here! BUT what about the poor folk? No worry, if you qualify for Food Stamps, you'll get a supply of Gasoline Stamps!
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Let the market decide, no subsidies, none of the taxpayer funded nonsense. Let's see, on their merits, if they succeed.
I see a simple solution to the electrical energy issue as folks add solar panels and frankly when the dream of 500 foot high wind towers ~15 miles from all US shores tanks for cost+ reasons. It's a solution daughter running IT at her alma mater Scripps college in Claremont CA did years ago when they had many Blackouts (as I recall about the time LA was getting screwed over by Enron.) They still won't build power rather buy it from Arizona or Nevada "when needed." They were out of capacity to sell several hot nights! Yep all solar cells folks are putting on their homes don't do Dip at 10 PM!
At the time the 5 Claremont Colleges invested in a gas turbine standby power system. Heck, then half the Scripps students were females (it's an all girls school) from Asia and tough telling parents paying very high tuition the school was closed for no AC! Worked, no more Blackouts!
We recently toured the Duke Power complex in Darlington SC. There is a Nuclear Plant (about ready to run out of life extensions) a Coal fired plate shut down for pollution issues and 7+ huge gas turbine generators! The turbines were bigger than the jet engines on a Dream Weaver! Can be turned on very quickly.
I can see even communities who are mad about blackouts buying a small one. Daughter lives close to her old collage in San Antonio Heights (part of Upland.) They could afford to have one installed. Power company could install one locally and change whatever but it would only be used for filling peak demand.
Heck my neighbor has a farm and tuned 500+ acers into solar panels. Says he can make more money selling power back than he can raising crops. Again all fine when there is sun. Won't be very much when the hurricane coming our way lasts for a few days! We'll see when the zealots get over No Natural Gas and use Math (a subject some skipped when taking Art History) and calculate the CO2 generated for peak shaving it's a drop in the bucket compared to the CO2 generated every hour of every day by China (~65% Coal versus our <19% and India with ~75% Coal.) Coal has twice the CO2 emissions as natural gas/BTU!
Yep Natural Gas powered turbine generators come in many sizes!
Last edited by JerryU; Aug 28, 2023 at 03:47 PM.


















