With the 5th model year just days away surprised we haven't seen any C9 speculation.
You know it's being worked on.
I understand the huge success the C8 has been, and you can't say for sure how long it will run, but I would think 27 would be about it.

 

It will be all electric and nobody will want it.

 

And it will have the optional Borla simulated exhaust note for $1,495 ....




George

 

Twin turbo V6 with electric boost motors on the front wheels like Benz is doing.

 

That's what I thought too until I started hearing all the talk about the BIG $$$ GM is dropping into their V8 engine program. EV is coming for sure but I don't think as fast as we think. There are still millions of car buyers not for it. I hope to never see it and I work for a car battery separator plant. I would rather be out of a job than out of an ICE car.

 

We've always been recalcitrant to change. Cars would never replace horses. Planes would never replace boats for crossing the ocean. And on and on and on.

That being said, I agree that ICE isn't going anywhere anytime soon. We're just too far removed from having the infrastructure to fully go electric. Electric will be treat for moving within a city (to/from work, grocery shopping, etc). But until you can easily drive coast to coast and even the tiniest towns have quick charge stations to charge vehicles, it's ICE for the foreseeable future.

 

EV’s have no soul. Like fake *****.

 

The fossil fuel car is T Rex. For all intents and purposes. Say it ain't so Joe is sounding its death knell. Before a new Corvette ICE generation can be introduced, it will be illegal to sell it in California. Watched the PGA event last week sponsored by BMW. Featured a dozen+ cars on display around the golf course. All were electrics. EV's are the future and it is now.

 

Got my deposit down.

 

I respectfully disagree, if done tastefully at least one of those two can have a lot of soul!

 

Speaking of Cali, if CARB holds fast and bans the sale of ICE cars, that is essentially the end of new ICE cars in America. They're such a big portion of the market that as California goes, so goes the nation. It is not economically viable for automakers to develop cars for North America that can't be sold in the Golden State. If California seceded tomorrow, it would be a top 5 World economy on its own.

As to the C9, I think we are likely a bit farther out from it than you think, steve8. Don't measure the C8 timeline against the C7, which was extremely short in Corvette terms at only 6 model years. C8 development was in full swing before the C7 was ever introduced and it was truly a stop gap. I think about 9 model years what this is going to run with production wrapping up in early 2028. That makes the first C9s 2029s. I can't see them developing a car like the upcoming ZR1 that certainly won't be out before model year 2026 to only be a 2-year car. Not buying it. Unlike the last gen, this one is different enough that the tooling and powertrain development costs will have to be spread out over more cars to justify the business case. I can maybe see the Zora being a one year car in 2028 as a 75th Anniversary thing perhaps. But I'm a believer that Zora is more likely to be a limited package based on the ZR1 than a whole different car. With current economic conditions and ZR1s likely to already be $200K cars as it is, I don't see GM pushing into that $275K range for a fancy Corvette. This is all speculation on my part of course so take it with a big chunk of salt.

 

I think the C8 production will be longer than the C7 due to earlier pandemic related problems, strike (or strikes), supply chain issues, etc. They’re not up to speed yet w/the E-Ray, and the Z06s are trickling out the door. They still have a GS, or something similar, and their swan song ZR1, Zora, or whatever the new moniker will be.

 

Nope, Mary and Company are committed to all EV's by 2035 (no choice that is what is being pushed on all of us!) Can't change manufacturing overnight! My prediction is an EV C9 Vette before 2030.

The info about the 2024 Silverado (to be out end 2023 like the E-Ray) was a surprise re capabilities. Note an early Car & Driver summary below. GM is spending 4 Billion on the plant to build them! They need to get young folks wanting and appreciating EV's. A new ICE Vette is NOT what they need to do that, it's going backward. Just like many of us put Ferrari etc sexy car posters on our walls so will today's school kids. Like most of us, forced by realism most won't be able to buy the sexy, high performance C9 EV Vette but when they buy a simple "grocery getters" they will want an EV!

Don't think some followed what happened April 2022. The old 54 mph requirement that required the Corvette and Silverado to have ~39 mpg, which was stopped January 2017 was reinstated. The requirement changed to 49 total average for cars and light trucks in 2026 BUT no details YET!

Just like some folks laugh at the EV Silverado and say, will never buy one, they might when they consider the alternative! My "guess" even if it is just to have GM Corporate mpg meet a EPA requirement for the 750,000 Silverado and Sierra combo they sell each year, the choice might be an EV with high hp OR perhaps a Turbo 4 Liter with a reduced ~200 hp to get higher mpg. Oh yea, you MIGHT be able to buy a V8 BUT at a ~$25,000 premium to keep demand down!

My guess is they will have free "Save The World" posters for kids visiting showrooms with their parents of a sexy looking 2 second 0 to 60 EV C9. Frankly why should they care about us old timers! Note the Silverado Specs. can see one light weight C9 with 2 second 0 to 60 with limited range (all most of us need) and perhaps a heavier lower performance version with more range.

 

FWIW, I'm super excited about the upcoming first generation of EV sports cars: Boxster/Cayman EV, Polestar 6, and Corvette EV. And I don't think I'm alone, either. The generation growing up with Tesla as an aspirational vehicle doesn't care about V8 engines, they want something modern. I'm buying a C8 but it isn't a case of "Better get a combustion car while I still can," it's more that I'm buying it as an interim solution until a proper EV sports car becomes available. Different people like and value different things and that's beautiful, it keeps life from becoming too boring.

 

It is well documented it will be a GAS v8. Anything can happen until an official announcement tho

 

Hell, here in Texas we can barely keep the lights on with our grid and now we are going to plug a couple million cars into this same grid? What rocket scientist had decided that this is a good idea? The politics of the Texas Electric Grid aside (although it is one of my favorite things to bitch about), this past week all you hear on the news is "to conserve". With the record temps, our grid is struggling to keep everyone's AC on. Nearly two winters ago we couldn't keep our homes warm enough....turns out when the power goes out natural gas pumping stations don't run.

The issue this week is that the wind and solar generation sources trend downward as sunset nears, but that happens to be when folks are cooling their homes, watching TV, doing the laundry, and guess what.....charging their cars. While I realize and accept that there will be more EV choices going forward, I think the talk of the internal combustion engines demise are greatly exaggerated.

 

I have seen what folks say is "documented." No better than my "guess."

BUT FOLKS CAN HOPE!

 

Here is my opinion. I believe that either Ford or GM will go through another bankrupt period. Several companies are constructing battery plants fairly close to me, OH & KY. What happens if some new battery process kills the current ones? Now, what do we do coach?

 

Yep, 1.5 million square foot EV Battery plant being built 5 miles from my home for BMW SUVs made in Western SC. Another being built in Columbia SC for the new Scout! That is the old International Harvester vehicle that VW now owns the name and is planning to sell EV Scouts!

Yep perhaps the new Sodium Battery will take over. Sobeit they will all make those! My solution to the electrical power issue is simple! In fact four of my neighbors on my block have them. Generac back-up generators (in case of hurricanes.) Not that big and reasonable cost compared to a Battery Wall system! Also can last for days or whatever not hours. Yep as soon as we get off this stupid no Natural Gas kick that is what will be done. No need for new wires, only use when the power companies can't meet demand (which in LA Area is at night where all the silly solar cells on roofs don't do DIP!) We'll see, we have 100 years supply and have already reduced our US CO2 emissions more than most of the World as less than 19% coal is being used to generate our US electricity. Much has gone to 50% less CO2 emissions/BTU natural gas! BTW China is still using ~65% Coal and building new Coal plants every week! Too bad that have the same air!

Don't get me wrong, not a Greenie and will still drive my ~10 mpg street rod regardless of how high they push the gasoline tax! Also getting an E-Ray not for it's mpg (which is no more than my current C8) but to get 160 hp with wasted braking energy!

 

I would slightly disagree with this. I know it’s apples and oranges, but Glock for example developed and sells a 4th Generation and then 5th Gen Glock 19 (my favorite model) in most of the rest of the USA while continuing to manufacture and sell the Gen 3 versions in California (with neutered 10 rd mags) because the newer gens do not comply with California law (although they can be sold to LEOs). And wasn’t it the case not too long ago where auto manufacturers would sell two versions of the same car, one version that complied with CA emissions regulations and the other version that did not? Or maybe that’s still the case?