2024 on lockdown
Drifting
Joined: Jun 2015
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The 2024 system works very well with a phone using Android Auto. Voice recognition, routing etc. And it links up and works every time. No need to pay an OnStar ransom, it just uses the data plan on your phone that you already pay for.
Race Director
Joined: Aug 2016
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From: Garden Valley CA
I disagree that the in-car nav is worse than Google Maps or Waze. Waze and Google Maps are terrible on mapping city side streets. I can't tell you how many times these two apps had me going in circles and/or had me making unnecessary turns. One time I even had to call my office, and have my assistant look at an online map to get me out of the Waze endless loop.
The graphics are also terrible compared to the in-car nav in my 2021 C8. The in car nav shows nice pictures of upcoming freeway signs to get you in the correct lane. Waze and Google Maps look like something from the year 2000.
Waze and Google Maps always tell you to turn about 50 feet past the intersection, too, which is frustrating. If you have to make a left turn, and then an immediate right turn, forget about it with Waze and Google Maps. You are going for a scenic drive.
Speaking of scenic drives, you better download maps in advance for an area you are going that doesn't have cell service with Google Maps. I found this out the hard way one time out in the middle of nowhere. Fortunately, I found a local who could give me directions or I would have had to backtrack about 100 miles. This is not an issue with real in-car nav.
Waze and Google Maps will route you right into a freeway closures when there are other freeways that you could take with no closure. It's done this multiple times with me, and caused me to get home extremely late at night. My in-car nav routes me right around it. To me it is worth $9.99 a month for the real-time data to avoid these situations. I'd rather not pay anything, but time is money for me and it's not expensive with the right plan.
I will probably get a 2024 Z06, and I'm not happy that it doesn't have real nav.
The graphics are also terrible compared to the in-car nav in my 2021 C8. The in car nav shows nice pictures of upcoming freeway signs to get you in the correct lane. Waze and Google Maps look like something from the year 2000.
Waze and Google Maps always tell you to turn about 50 feet past the intersection, too, which is frustrating. If you have to make a left turn, and then an immediate right turn, forget about it with Waze and Google Maps. You are going for a scenic drive.
Speaking of scenic drives, you better download maps in advance for an area you are going that doesn't have cell service with Google Maps. I found this out the hard way one time out in the middle of nowhere. Fortunately, I found a local who could give me directions or I would have had to backtrack about 100 miles. This is not an issue with real in-car nav.
Waze and Google Maps will route you right into a freeway closures when there are other freeways that you could take with no closure. It's done this multiple times with me, and caused me to get home extremely late at night. My in-car nav routes me right around it. To me it is worth $9.99 a month for the real-time data to avoid these situations. I'd rather not pay anything, but time is money for me and it's not expensive with the right plan.
I will probably get a 2024 Z06, and I'm not happy that it doesn't have real nav.
My built in navigation in my C7 would always want to take me 5 minutes out of my way when I was going south from my house. It wanted to take me north and then south. When I took what I knew was the faster route it would recalculate and show a 5 minute earlier ETA so the information is in the database. The C8 is better but still doesn't take me on the fastest route. Changing the preferences would just make things worse. And, as I mentioned, sometimes the voice commands act like I'm speaking a different language and offers up suggestions that aren't even close.
Early on I had problems with Google Maps when I was out of cell range. It even rerouted me out of cell range once without downloading the map and I was driving in the middle of nothing. And sometimes I would get these "stickman" maps. But lately it has been very good about automatically downloading maps ahead of time and I haven't had the problems lately.
Burning Brakes
Joined: May 2023
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From: Ontario
I tried it on my phone last night, and as soon as it started asking me if I wanted to upgrade for $$, I uninstalled it.
MapFactor Navigation, Maps.Me, and Here WeGo are currently the only 3 I could get to work offline without any extra subscriptions involved.
However, each has a smallish Achilles Heel, which I'm working through, to see which one might be the best.
I can say the Mapfactor's North American maps take up about half the storage that the other 2 need. It needs around 5GB for the maps.
HereWeGo and Maps.Me are double that size, but may have more features, like waypoint/poi/other perks which is why they're bigger map files.
All 3 work on an Android phone that's in Airplane Mode (no connectivity) and can create routing and issue turn by turn navigation instructions.
Waze can work offline, but only for a current route, which it caches in it's memory, if connectivity is lost. If you shut the route down or shut off the car you might purge the Waze cache, and would then need a connection to restart your route. It does not support offline maps, just what it can remember from it's last nav function.
I have yet to load the 3 mentioned above into the 2024 C8, mostly due to crappy weather and other logistics.
And the system is a little more convoluted than my smartphone, so please standby.
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2023
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True, but some features are missing without a paid subscription to it. At least that's what I found.
I tried it on my phone last night, and as soon as it started asking me if I wanted to upgrade for $$, I uninstalled it.
MapFactor Navigation, Maps.Me, and Here WeGo are currently the only 3 I could get to work offline without any extra subscriptions involved.
However, each has a smallish Achilles Heel, which I'm working through, to see which one might be the best.
I can say the Mapfactor's North American maps take up about half the storage that the other 2 need. It needs around 5GB for the maps.
HereWeGo and Maps.Me are double that size, but may have more features, like waypoint/poi/other perks which is why they're bigger map files.
All 3 work on an Android phone that's in Airplane Mode (no connectivity) and can create routing and issue turn by turn navigation instructions.
Waze can work offline, but only for a current route, which it caches in it's memory, if connectivity is lost. If you shut the route down or shut off the car you might purge the Waze cache, and would then need a connection to restart your route. It does not support offline maps, just what it can remember from it's last nav function.
I have yet to load the 3 mentioned above into the 2024 C8, mostly due to crappy weather and other logistics.
And the system is a little more convoluted than my smartphone, so please standby.
I tried it on my phone last night, and as soon as it started asking me if I wanted to upgrade for $$, I uninstalled it.
MapFactor Navigation, Maps.Me, and Here WeGo are currently the only 3 I could get to work offline without any extra subscriptions involved.
However, each has a smallish Achilles Heel, which I'm working through, to see which one might be the best.
I can say the Mapfactor's North American maps take up about half the storage that the other 2 need. It needs around 5GB for the maps.
HereWeGo and Maps.Me are double that size, but may have more features, like waypoint/poi/other perks which is why they're bigger map files.
All 3 work on an Android phone that's in Airplane Mode (no connectivity) and can create routing and issue turn by turn navigation instructions.
Waze can work offline, but only for a current route, which it caches in it's memory, if connectivity is lost. If you shut the route down or shut off the car you might purge the Waze cache, and would then need a connection to restart your route. It does not support offline maps, just what it can remember from it's last nav function.
I have yet to load the 3 mentioned above into the 2024 C8, mostly due to crappy weather and other logistics.
And the system is a little more convoluted than my smartphone, so please standby.
I would be eternally grateful for a set of instructions that would enable me to do a one time connection to my home WiFi to down load a Nav app (with a permanent map data base) that I could use to navigate from A to B without subscription fees and without my phone. I actually prefer to not connect my phone when I get in the car. I don’t take calls while driving nor look at text messages. A car based Nav system (that the car should have) would be greatly appreciated.
Instructor
Joined: Dec 2016
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From: Port Coquitlam BC
Melting Slicks
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If I had an option to delete the Sirius XM receiver and use the money for FLOOR MATS, I would check that block. YEP!
Race Director
Joined: Aug 2016
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From: Garden Valley CA
There is nothing on Sirius XM that I would pay more than a dollar a month to listen to, plus I have a huge CD collection that I ripped to MP3/M4A at placebo level quality which sounds FAR FAR better than compressed/squished/quantized satellite based radio stations.
If I had an option to delete the Sirius XM receiver and use the money for FLOOR MATS, I would check that block. YEP!
If I had an option to delete the Sirius XM receiver and use the money for FLOOR MATS, I would check that block. YEP!
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Drifting
Joined: Nov 2023
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There is nothing on Sirius XM that I would pay more than a dollar a month to listen to, plus I have a huge CD collection that I ripped to MP3/M4A at placebo level quality which sounds FAR FAR better than compressed/squished/quantized satellite based radio stations.
If I had an option to delete the Sirius XM receiver and use the money for FLOOR MATS, I would check that block. YEP!
If I had an option to delete the Sirius XM receiver and use the money for FLOOR MATS, I would check that block. YEP!
Burning Brakes
Joined: May 2023
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From: Ontario
It's on my invoice as an included 3 year, full coverage, OnStar subscription.
I'm told they've charged me (added to/buried in the base price f the car) an additional C$1200 for the 3 years.
Which works out to around C$33/month.
Probably trying to prop up what is considered by most to be a dinosaur.
Some 2023 owners have said they were also forced to take this, but I can't verify whether it was "forced" or "consensual".
Burning Brakes
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 1,034
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From: Ontario
standing by….
I would be eternally grateful for a set of instructions that would enable me to do a one time connection to my home WiFi to down load a Nav app (with a permanent map data base) that I could use to navigate from A to B without subscription fees and without my phone. I actually prefer to not connect my phone when I get in the car. I don’t take calls while driving nor look at text messages. A car based Nav system (that the car should have) would be greatly appreciated.
I would be eternally grateful for a set of instructions that would enable me to do a one time connection to my home WiFi to down load a Nav app (with a permanent map data base) that I could use to navigate from A to B without subscription fees and without my phone. I actually prefer to not connect my phone when I get in the car. I don’t take calls while driving nor look at text messages. A car based Nav system (that the car should have) would be greatly appreciated.
Park in your driveway, start vehicle, gain access to the DIC/Infotainment touchscreen.
Select Settings, then Connections, then either Network or WIFI. (this where my memory gets foggy)
Once you get into the WIFI screen, select "ADD". (again, haven't done this in 2 months, so a little foggy)
Provide the SSID name of your home network wifi router by tapping that field, and any access code or password by tapping that field (these functions should open a keyboard for typing).
I don't recall seeing any drop down for "security type" like WEP or WPA/WPA-2, but if there's a choice, make it WPA assuming your home router is fairly new.
Click or tap whatever the "OK" or "Enter" or "Accept" icon, and you should see the home network SSID in the list of connected somewhere on the screen.
You now have access to the internet through your home wifi router, in your car, in your driveway/garage.
CAVEAT: Assuming your home wifi router's range can reach your C8. Some older wifi routers may not be able to "see" your C8's netowrk, and vice versa.
If anyone can correct or clarify any of these instructions here, please feel free. These instructions work (I hope) in a 2024 HTC Z51.
As for the download a NAV app with offline maps, that's another animal, but your starting point will be get connected, then off to the Google Play Store app in the DIC/Infotainment screens.
Last edited by MKC8; Jan 28, 2024 at 01:10 PM.