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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AzDave47
It's really cold in space even though the first stage booster may not get into orbit, it is '60* usually at 35,000'
Not to totally sidetrack this thread, but...

The SRBs separate at ~160,000'. It doesn't really matter what the temp on the ground is (Challenger launched in 36F weather) as the air temp at that altitude is a pretty consistent ~30F. That said, the real issue was two-fold: 1) the air temp was colder (18F) leading up to T-0 launch time, with the o-rings themselves hitting as low as 8F overnight (i.e., the o-rings were less compliant), and 2) poor tolerancing of the sealing/mating surfaces allowed the seals to practically twist open once under the pressure of the rocket. By the time the shuttle assembly hits the SRB sep point, it's traveling Mach 4+, and the air friction against the outer skin has already warmed things up significantly (there's a trade-off between the increasing Mach number and the decreasing air density with altitude... by the time it hits Mach 1, the air density has already deceased about 5x from sea level, but things are quite warm by this point regardless). In a nutshell, the o-ring is well beyond room temp by the time the SRB cuts loose of the assembly, but in the case of Challenger, the seal damage (caused by blow-by) was already past the point of no return.

Luckily for us, the worst that could happen in a similar case is a few drops of fluid pushed out

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I missed an important character, at 35,000' it is -60*. Thanks for the detail
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