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if 56mph is the top of 2nd, then the 2/3 completed shift should be 60 with momentum.. to pull a real sub 3 second in the street will be tough on those tires as i gave it much more than even a 3ft rollout on the low 3 and the 2.95.. but this was only one launch. was just surprised by the amount of wheelspin. was similar to that video of the blue one on the street taking off without the launch control.
Make sure you factor in the speed of sound since you are basing the speed of the C8 on the sound of the shifts the DCT is making.
The mic reference in timing needs to be adjusted for the amount of time required for the sound to travel from the C8 to the mic at the time of the 2nd shift.
Also other than having a certain speed when the shift occurs momentum doesn't provide any additional acceleration. For the short period of time that engine torque isn't transferred to the rear wheels during the shift the car is coasting and actually dropping in speed.
Also other than having a certain speed when the shift occurs momentum doesn't provide any additional acceleration. For the short period of time that engine torque isn't transferred to the rear wheels during the shift the car is coasting and actually dropping in speed.
Bill
If this Chevrolet video is to be believed this may not be entirely true. Unless I'm missing something, it sounds like they are driving power through both clutches at the same time during shifts, at least on "aggressive launches". So second gear isn't stopping power delivery until third gear has already started delivering power which basically makes the shift time moot since there is a seamless delivery of torque during acceleration despite the gear change. Not sure if this also happens on the 1-2 or 3-4, 4-5 etc shifts, but 2-3 is mentioned. Again, this is a Chevy video so take that for what it's worth.
If this Chevrolet video is to be believed this may not be entirely true. Unless I'm missing something, it sounds like they are driving power through both clutches at the same time during shifts, at least on "aggressive launches". So second gear isn't stopping power delivery until third gear has already started delivering power which basically makes the shift time moot since there is a seamless delivery of torque during acceleration despite the gear change. Not sure if this also happens on the 1-2 or 3-4, 4-5 etc shifts, but 2-3 is mentioned. Again, this is a Chevy video so take that for what it's worth.
This is brilliant engineering if true. Looks like GM wanted the 2-3 shift before 60 mph to improve the 0-60 time. Putting power through both clutches.
Awesome stuff! (And I’m a manual transmission fan)
If this Chevrolet video is to be believed this may not be entirely true. Unless I'm missing something, it sounds like they are driving power through both clutches at the same time during shifts, at least on "aggressive launches". So second gear isn't stopping power delivery until third gear has already started delivering power which basically makes the shift time moot since there is a seamless delivery of torque during acceleration despite the gear change. Not sure if this also happens on the 1-2 or 3-4, 4-5 etc shifts, but 2-3 is mentioned. Again, this is a Chevy video so take that for what it's worth.
That's insane if true, because you can't spin both gears at the same engine speed simultaneously.. If both clutches are engaged for the 1/10th of second that it takes for the mechanism to select between each gear, the clutch for the higher gear will be slipping for that 100 millisecond every time you shift. Maybe that's why the gear ratios are so close, as to keep the difference in engine speed to gear spin ratio as low as possible to minimize slip and wear.
That clutch pack better be the most robust clutch pack, or a wet clutch setup (dry clutch is superior*), or both to last the duration of the warranty.
i tried my best.. a little lazy at the start and a little quick on the stop and then vice versa lol.. need another set of hands!! https://youtu.be/l27X0NSMk_s
if 56mph is the top of 2nd, then the 2/3 completed shift should be 60 with momentum.. to pull a real sub 3 second in the street will be tough on those tires as i gave it much more than even a 3ft rollout on the low 3 and the 2.95.. but this was only one launch. was just surprised by the amount of wheelspin. was similar to that video of the blue one on the street taking off without the launch control.
Isnt this just a video they released as they tried launch control a few times? Or is this an official video with claims of under 3 seconds?
i tried my best.. a little lazy at the start and a little quick on the stop and then vice versa lol.. need another set of hands!! https://youtu.be/l27X0NSMk_s
if 56mph is the top of 2nd, then the 2/3 completed shift should be 60 with momentum.. to pull a real sub 3 second in the street will be tough on those tires as i gave it much more than even a 3ft rollout on the low 3 and the 2.95.. but this was only one launch. was just surprised by the amount of wheelspin. was similar to that video of the blue one on the street taking off without the launch control.
lol...yeah that's why guys run a 4.39 40 on a hand time then a 4.55 on an electronic timer. Being ME and with the low 3.80:1 Z51 rear end and the special attention chevy gave the Z51 DCT gear spacing she will have a very good 0-60 time but w/o a rolling start (MT actually allows a 1 mph rolling start in their "0-60" times), no way she will be under 3 seconds....the Ferrari F8 is 710 BHP and she is a 2.8 or 2.9 sec 0-60 car...my 2 cents anywho.
What about the other cars that you had mentioned did MT did start those on a roll or any other magazine? I do get your point......it should be a fair time
What about the other cars that you had mentioned did MT did start those on a roll or any other magazine? I do get your point......it should be a fair time
MT calculates the time from 1 mph on all their test cars, not just the Corvette.
Make sure you factor in the speed of sound since you are basing the speed of the C8 on the sound of the shifts the DCT is making.
The mic reference in timing needs to be adjusted for the amount of time required for the sound to travel from the C8 to the mic at the time of the 2nd shift.
It’s slower than my old run in C5 that made a little over 400rwhp in video below which I figure should be similar to what a C8 runs in optimal conditions, so if the disclaimers are true then it makes sense...