C8 ceramic brake pads
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I was going to make the tool and I still might but that is not the bigger issue. If you were to remove the bolt and say misplace it, you will be buying a new Brembo Caliper from GM. It is a special bolt and it is a non service item. I am sure you could find a aftermarket Brembo to work, but how long is the car going to be down for that? At some point I will make a socket to remove it and then a replacement bridge bolt that will go in a kit. This is way that will not be an issue.
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The bridge bolt on the new caliper is non servicable. It is also a new fastner design, it looks like a spline but it isn't and it is not the Volvo 11 point. So far Kent-Moore or Snap-On have anything that will fit it. When I looked it up through GM you can't even purchase the bridge bolt, it is part of the caliper. I may make it, not sure yet but for now you will have to remove the front caliper to replace the pads. The rear caliper can stay on since it does not have a bridge bolt and just has retaining pins.[/I
Thanks for the reply. I sure some tool company will have a tool soon. Taking off the caliper is not a big deal, just more work. Keep up posted
Thanks for the reply. I sure some tool company will have a tool soon. Taking off the caliper is not a big deal, just more work. Keep up posted
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Are you just concerned about misplacing the bolt or is it a torque issue where the bolt cannot be reused.
I was going to make the tool and I still might but that is not the bigger issue. If you were to remove the bolt and say misplace it, you will be buying a new Brembo Caliper from GM. It is a special bolt and it is a non service item. I am sure you could find a aftermarket Brembo to work, but how long is the car going to be down for that? At some point I will make a socket to remove it and then a replacement bridge bolt that will go in a kit. This is way that will not be an issue.
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Thanks for getting all this info posted re C8 ceramic brakes! 
It's strange for a car designed to be tracked to need a special tool to remove the cross bolt! When my 2017 Grand Sport cross bolt on a bigger Brembo caliper used standard wrenches!
Will be interested in what is found. My plan, as I did when my Grand Sport arrived, is to replace the C8 Z51 pads with ceramic on Day 1 so I didn't have to clean the rotors as I did on my 6 month old September 2013 built Z51. That dust required cleaning ever ~200 miles as it not only looked bad it was pitting my black wheels!
I was going to make the tool and I still might but that is not the bigger issue. If you were to remove the bolt and say misplace it, you will be buying a new Brembo Caliper from GM. It is a special bolt and it is a non service item. I am sure you could find a aftermarket Brembo to work, but how long is the car going to be down for that? At some point I will make a socket to remove it and then a replacement bridge bolt that will go in a kit. This is way that will not be an issue.
Justin
Justin
It's strange for a car designed to be tracked to need a special tool to remove the cross bolt! When my 2017 Grand Sport cross bolt on a bigger Brembo caliper used standard wrenches!
Will be interested in what is found. My plan, as I did when my Grand Sport arrived, is to replace the C8 Z51 pads with ceramic on Day 1 so I didn't have to clean the rotors as I did on my 6 month old September 2013 built Z51. That dust required cleaning ever ~200 miles as it not only looked bad it was pitting my black wheels!
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I agree, I found it a little odd.When I first looked at it I thought it was just a spline and really didn't think about it again, until we went to remove it. I have talked to a Brembo race rep in NC and they have nothing on it. When you look the item up on GM's server it is a non service part and in order to get it you have to purchase the caliper. We will figure out a solution, I like the idea of it being removed to change pads, but for now it is not.
Thanks for getting all this info posted re C8 ceramic brakes!
It's strange for a car designed to be tracked to need a special tool to remove the cross bolt! When my 2017 Grand Sport cross bolt on a bigger Brembo caliper used standard wrenches!
Will be interested in what is found. My plan, as I did when my Grand Sport arrived, is to replace the C8 Z51 pads with ceramic on Day 1 so I didn't have to clean the rotors as I did on my 6 month old September 2013 built Z51. That dust required cleaning ever ~200 miles as it not only looked bad it was pitting my black wheels!
It's strange for a car designed to be tracked to need a special tool to remove the cross bolt! When my 2017 Grand Sport cross bolt on a bigger Brembo caliper used standard wrenches!
Will be interested in what is found. My plan, as I did when my Grand Sport arrived, is to replace the C8 Z51 pads with ceramic on Day 1 so I didn't have to clean the rotors as I did on my 6 month old September 2013 built Z51. That dust required cleaning ever ~200 miles as it not only looked bad it was pitting my black wheels!
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Intriguing! Sounds like for whatever reason It's not meant to be removable. Strange as if racing a Vette with stock calipers, the quick change of pads would not be possible or would take more time. For folks Tracking that install Race pads and want to put Street pads back on after also more of a hassle. Will be interested to see what Brembo says.
Intriguing! Sounds like for whatever reason It's not meant to be removable. Strange as if racing a Vette with stock calipers, the quick change of pads would not be possible or would take more time. For folks Tracking that install Race pads and want to put Street pads back on after also more of a hassle. Will be interested to see what Brembo says.
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Intriguing! Sounds like for whatever reason It's not meant to be removable. Strange as if racing a Vette with stock calipers, the quick change of pads would not be possible or would take more time. For folks Tracking that install Race pads and want to put Street pads back on after also more of a hassle. Will be interested to see what Brembo says.
Intriguing! Sounds like for whatever reason It's not meant to be removable. Strange as if racing a Vette with stock calipers, the quick change of pads would not be possible or would take more time. For folks Tracking that install Race pads and want to put Street pads back on after also more of a hassle. Will be interested to see what Brembo says.
I remember when LRPG was running Rolex and I couldn't believe the spares that were on hand and how quick they had stuff down. I mean they know how much oil it is going to burn during time between pits and are able to add it through a quick fill port by the a pillar, they don't even have to lift the hood.
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Sorry 1st time on this forum. Are you with ampd?
ARE you with Ampd?....do you have the J55 ceramic brake pads available?
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NO, I am with Zip Products, Inc. We do sell Carbotech, but Carbotech does not have these for a C8 yet. We have them in stock for the JL9 front and rear and the Z51 front. We are waiting on the Z51 rear which should be next week.
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On race cars now a days they don't change just the pads. When the car needs pads they have the entire setup ready, it gets a caliper, pads and rotor all at the same time. It is faster then just changing the pads and the parts are new and ready to go. Calipers are already pre bled and all they do is hook it up. If you go look in their pit you will also see complete suspension corners as well in case there is an issue.
I remember when LRPG was running Rolex and I couldn't believe the spares that were on hand and how quick they had stuff down. I mean they know how much oil it is going to burn during time between pits and are able to add it through a quick fill port by the a pillar, they don't even have to lift the hood.
I remember when LRPG was running Rolex and I couldn't believe the spares that were on hand and how quick they had stuff down. I mean they know how much oil it is going to burn during time between pits and are able to add it through a quick fill port by the a pillar, they don't even have to lift the hood.
