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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 02:17 AM
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Thought you may want to see what’s GM’s

track camber spec actually lookalike on the ground
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 06:13 PM
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A number of guys have run up to -3 degrees on their C7s. A large number set their camber to -2.2 to -2.5 so the GM C8 recommendation isn't that far off from what people have been using on previous generation cars.

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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaheen Javadizadeh
Thought you may want to see what’s GM’s

track camber spec actually lookalike on the ground
I’m looking forward to doing mine as soon as a event is actually going to happen- I have permission to use my dealerships rear caster tools ( they have them hidden from me for now) I know the c7c8 bracket is the same are the c8 pins different? I will compare pins when I borrow dealerships tools and put next to my c7 rear caster tools . Remember it’s not a alignment without having rear caster tools and using them / thanks
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@savage Thanks for the top on utilizing the Rear Caster tool. I'm calling around to all the Los Angeles Chevy dealers and they have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to the track alignment, brake flush, and transmission fill.

Question - Do you leave your camber at the "track" setting for daily use too? I'm going to likely track the car every few months and drive it 10k miles a year. How are the driving dynamics for highway use with the track camber settings?
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@savage Thanks for the top on utilizing the Rear Caster tool. I'm calling around to all the Los Angeles Chevy dealers and they have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to the track alignment, brake flush, and transmission fill.

Question - Do you leave your camber at the "track" setting for daily use too? I'm going to likely track the car every few months and drive it 10k miles a year. How are the driving dynamics for highway use with the track camber settings?
I’ve always read guys saying you can’t run track alignment on street, I’ve been doing it Sence 1990 and haven’t figured out why I can’t other than tire wear ( if you go with 0 tow in front and just a little toe in at the rear tire wear isn’t a problem, also forget the dealership when it comes to track alignment , they honestly don’t care but they do have the tools in their corvette box 📦, they are going to let me use theirs are my alignment guy if they are different than the ones I have for c7’s . If you really get stuck on ideas just give me a text - 5704061932 . Good luck 🍀
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Old May 8, 2020 | 02:40 AM
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I run a (properly-done) track alignment with (Granatelli?) Heim joints in the rear on my C7 Z51, on PSC 2's. I'm getting plenty of life out of the PSC 2's (haven't really noticed any wear in the past 4500 miles), and the car is not only incredible in the dry, it's also quite drivable in the wet (even with PSC 2's). So if the C8 is similar, it seems like you could street a C8 with a track alignment ...
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Old May 9, 2020 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KOTYKB
@savage Thanks for the top on utilizing the Rear Caster tool. I'm calling around to all the Los Angeles Chevy dealers and they have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to the track alignment, brake flush, and transmission fill.

Question - Do you leave your camber at the "track" setting for daily use too? I'm going to likely track the car every few months and drive it 10k miles a year. How are the driving dynamics for highway use with the track camber settings?
Call me crazy, but I have noticed that having the track alignment, has negatively affected the handling dynamics on the street. In spirited cornering on the street, the cornering sensation seems more sedate. It feels like I’m not pulling the same lateral load, but the G meter says I am. I think what’s happening is that with the standard camber, the tire is rolling over on the shoulder, and you get a nice road feel from this. The stiff sidewall of the run flats only accentuates this, and it really is a nice sensation. I don’t feel this with the track alignment, because the tire is flatter in the corner. Of course this works to your advantage on the track, and will allow for higher speed cornering, but it lessens the experience on the street, at least that’s what I’m experiencing. So in addition to accelerated inside tire wear, this might be another liability of running a track alignment on the street.
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Old May 10, 2020 | 02:04 AM
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Call me crazy, but I have noticed that having the track alignment, has negatively affected the handling dynamics on the street. In spirited cornering on the street, the cornering sensation seems more sedate. It feels like I’m not pulling the same lateral load, but the G meter says I am. I think what’s happening is that with the standard camber, the tire is rolling over on the shoulder, and you get a nice road feel from this. The stiff sidewall of the run flats only accentuates this, and it really is a nice sensation. I don’t feel this with the track alignment, because the tire is flatter in the corner. Of course this works to your advantage on the track, and will allow for higher speed cornering, but it lessens the experience on the street, at least that’s what I’m experiencing. So in addition to accelerated inside tire wear, this might be another liability of running a track alignment on the street.
G Force is G Force it doesn't feel any different on the street or the track. Go around the same radius turn at the same speed on the street as on the track and the force on your body is the same and feels the same.

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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
G Force is G Force it doesn't feel any different on the street or the track. Go around the same radius turn at the same speed on the street as on the track and the force on your body is the same and feels the same.

Bill
i understand and agree with you, but there is a difference in the feeling and feedback I’m experiencing during cornering.
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I have another thread going on getting my car "Track Prepped". I'm going to go with the following alignment since I'm going to track my car, canyon drive it, and also use it for daily/weekend general use.

Front: Caster +6 to +8, Camber -1.5, Toe 0
Rear: Caster 0, Camber -1.0, Toe 0, Thrust Angle 0

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1601478321


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Originally Posted by KOTYKB
@savage Thanks for the top on utilizing the Rear Caster tool. I'm calling around to all the Los Angeles Chevy dealers and they have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to the track alignment, brake flush, and transmission fill.

Question - Do you leave your camber at the "track" setting for daily use too? I'm going to likely track the car every few months and drive it 10k miles a year. How are the driving dynamics for highway use with the track camber settings?
KOYYKB...Sorry been away from the forum for a bit. Most of the dealers won't know what you are talking about. In Los Angeles, my guess is your best bet would be Rydell as they sell them most corvettes down there. Their aligniment guy must have the specs downloaded to their alignment computer. If you call ahead to ask them if they have the factory and track specs loaded for the C8 they should put you on the phone with the right person who will know. Most dealers do not have the spec loaded but can call their reps and get it. If you don't want the dealer to align it, you can take it to any competent alignment shop and they can cover your specs.

I run the track alignment on the street. I also don't care too much about tire life. So far I don't have enough data/milage to tell you how tire wear is. I would also say that everyone has an opinion on this who has a c5, c6, c7, gt3, 458 etc. The reality is, this is car dependant. A chassis, weight distribution, brake system, dampening rates and tire compound all work together to affect how a particular alignment reacts and wears on tires. My advice is don't take advice from others (as good as it is for their make and model of car) . Its not a c8. Just like you can not take the specs and advice from someone who races their Miata, Porsche, or Ferrari. Its simply a different car.

The only thing I change after a track day is brake fluid. Otherwise, I'm in track prep the entire time.
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Old May 13, 2020 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaheen Javadizadeh
The only thing I change after a track day is brake fluid. Otherwise, I'm in track prep the entire time.
Why? Run Castrol SRF and bleed it once a year. Easy button.
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