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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 12:26 PM
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I understand that a valve cuts oil flow to the affected lifters when going from 8 cyl to 4. Does this happen at random or is this synchronized to the crankshaft to occur at a specific point in the 4 cycles? If so, what point?
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It's all specifically computer-controlled.
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Originally Posted by sdcnews
I understand that a valve cuts oil flow to the affected lifters when going from 8 cyl to 4. Does this happen at random or is this synchronized to the crankshaft to occur at a specific point in the 4 cycles? If so, what point?
It's very carefully controlled. Some may be interested in this very detailed sequence:

Cylinder Deactivation
All that you wanted to know (and more) about the AFM system. (Note it's for the C7 but the C8 would be about the same.)

To provide maximum fuel economy under light load driving conditions, the engine control module (ECM) will command the cylinder deactivation system ON to deactivate engine cylinders
1, 7, 6, and 4, switching to a V4mode. The engine will operate on 8cylinders, or V8mode, during engine starting, engine idling, and medium to heavy throttle applications.

Manifold absolute pressure (MAP) and the conditions listed below determine when cylinder deactivation is enabled.

•Engine has been running for greater than 30
s
•Engine speed is between 700 and 2800
rpm
•Engine oil pressure is between 187–455
kPa (2766psi)
•Engine coolant temperature is between 40–129°C (100–264°F)
•Engine oil temperature is between 16–128°C (61–263°F)
•Throttle angle is 6% or less
•Ignition voltage is greater than 11
V
•Vehicle speed is greater than 25
kph (15.5mph)
•Brake booster pressure is greater than 42.0kPa (6psi)
•Vehicle is not in fuel shut of mode

When cylinder deactivation is commanded, the ECM will determine what cylinder is firing and begin deactivation on the next closest deactivated cylinder in firing order sequence. For example, if cylinder number
1 is on its combustion event when cylinder deactivation is commanded ON, the next cylinder in the firing order sequence that can be deactivated is cylinder number7. If cylinder number5 is on its combustion event when cylinder deactivation is commanded ON, then the next cylinder in the firing order sequence that can be deactivated is cylinder number4.

Cylinder deactivation is accomplished by not allowing the intake and exhaust valves to open on the selected cylinders by using special valve lifters. The deactivation lifters contain spring loaded locking pins that connect the internal pin housing of the lifter to the outer housing.

The pin housing contains the lifter plunger and pushrod seat which interfaces with the pushrod. The outer housing contacts the camshaft lobe through a roller. During V8
mode, when all cylinders are active, the locking pins are pushed outward by spring force, locking the pin housing and outer housing together causing the lifter to function as a normal lifter. When cylinder deactivation is commanded ON, the locking pins are pushed inward with engine oil pressure directed from the valve lifter oil manifold assembly solenoids. When the lifter pin housing is unlocked from the outer housing, the pin housing will remain stationary, while the outer housing will move with the profile of the camshaft lobe, which results in the valve remaining closed. One valve lifter oil manifold assembly solenoid controls both the intake and exhaust valves for each deactivating cylinder. There are 2distinct oil passages going to each cylinder deactivation lifter bore, one for the hydraulic lash-adjusting feature of the lifter, and one for controlling the locking pins used for cylinder deactivation.

Although both intake and exhaust valve lifters are controlled by the same solenoid in the valve lifter oil manifold assembly, the intake and exhaust valves do not become deactivated at the same time. Cylinder deactivation is timed so that the cylinder is on an intake event. During an intake event, the intake cam lobe is pushing the valve lifter upwards to open the intake valve against the force of the valve spring. The force exerted by the valve spring is acting on the side of the lifter locking pins, preventing them from moving until the intake valve has closed. When the intake valve lifter reaches the base circle of the camshaft lobe, the valve spring force is reduced, allowing the locking pins to move, deactivating the intake valve. However, when cylinder deactivation is commanded ON, the exhaust valve for the deactivated cylinder is in the closed position, allowing the locking pins on the valve lifter to move immediately, and deactivate the exhaust valve.

By deactivating the exhaust valve first, this allows the capture of a burnt air/fuel charge, or exhaust gas charge, in the combustion chamber. The capture of exhaust gases in the combustion chamber will contribute to a reduction in oil consumption, noise and vibration levels, and exhaust emissions when operating in V4
mode cylinder deactivation mode.

During the transition from V8 to V4mode, the Fuel Injectors will be turned OFF on the deactivated cylinders. To help prevent spark plug fouling, the ignition system secondary voltage or spark is still present across the spark plug electrodes on the deactivated cylinders. If all enabling conditions are met and maintained for cylinder deactivation operation, the ECM calibrations will limit cylinder deactivation to a cycle time of 10minutes in V4mode, then return to V8mode for 1minute.

Switching between V8 and V4modes is accomplished in less than 250milliseconds, making the transitions seamless and transparent to the vehicle operator. The 250milliseconds includes the time for the ECM to sequence the transitions, the response time for the valve lifter oil manifold assembly solenoids to energize, and the time for the valve lifters to deactivate, all within 2revolutions of the engine crankshaft.

Valve Lifter Oil Manifold Assembly


The cylinder deactivation system uses an electro-hydraulic actuator device called the valve lifter oil manifold assembly. The valve lifter oil manifold assembly is bolted to the top of the engine valley, below the intake manifold assembly. The valve lifter oil manifold assembly consists of 4electrically operated normally closed solenoids. Each solenoid controls the application of engine oil pressure to the intake and exhaust valve lifters on the cylinders selected to deactivate. Engine oil pressure is routed to the valve lifter oil manifold assembly from an internal oil passage on the rear of the cylinder block.

All 4
valve lifter oil manifold assembly solenoids are connected in parallel to a fused ignition1 voltage circuit, supplied by the powertrain relay. The ground or control circuit for each solenoid is connected to a low side driver internal to the engine control module (ECM).

When all enabling conditions are met for cylinder deactivation, the ECM will ground each solenoid control circuit in firing order sequence, allowing current to flow through the solenoid windings. With the coil windings energized, the solenoid valve opens, redirecting engine oil pressure through the valve lifter oil manifold assembly into 8
separate vertical passages in the engine lifter valley. The 8vertical passages, 2per cylinder, are connected to the valve lifter bores of the cylinders to be deactivated. When vehicle-operating conditions require a return to V8mode, the ECM will turn OFF the control circuit for the solenoids, allowing the solenoid valves to close. With the solenoid valves closed, engine oil pressure in the control ports is exhausted through the body of the solenoids into the engine block lifter valley. The housing of the valve lifter oil manifold assembly incorporates several bleeds in the oil passages to purge any air trapped in the valve lifter oil manifold assembly or engine block.

To help control contamination to the hydraulic circuits, a small replaceable oil screen is located in the valve lifter oil manifold assembly oil inlet passage, below the oil pressure sensor. The oil pressure sensor is a 3-wire sensor which provides oil pressure information to the ECM.

During service, use extreme care in keeping the valve lifter oil manifold assembly free of any contamination or foreign material.

Cylinder deactivation may be inhibited for many reasons including the following:

•Engine coolant temperature out of range for cylinder activation
•Engine vacuum out of range
•Accelerator pedal out of range or rate of pedal application to fast
•Engine oil pressure and temperature out of range
•Engine speed out of range
•Vehicle speed out of range
•Minimum time in V8 mode not met
•Maximum V4 mode time exceeded
•Decel fuel cutoff is active
•Reduced engine power is active
•Torque management is active
•Catalytic converter over temperature protection is active
•Piston protection is active, knock detected
•Cylinder deactivation solenoid driver circuit faults

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Old Jul 17, 2022 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
It's very carefully controlled. Some may be interested in this very detailed sequence:

Cylinder Deactivation
All that you wanted to know (and more) about the AFM system. (Note it's for the C7 but the C8 would be about the same.)

To provide maximum fuel economy under light load driving conditions, the engine control module (ECM) will command the cylinder deactivation system ON to deactivate engine cylinders
1, 7, 6, and 4, switching to a V4mode. The engine will operate on 8cylinders, or V8mode, during engine starting, engine idling, and medium to heavy throttle applications.

Manifold absolute pressure (MAP) and the conditions listed below determine when cylinder deactivation is enabled.

•Engine has been running for greater than 30
s
•Engine speed is between 700 and 2800
rpm
•Engine oil pressure is between 187–455
kPa (2766psi)
•Engine coolant temperature is between 40–129°C (100–264°F)
•Engine oil temperature is between 16–128°C (61–263°F)
•Throttle angle is 6% or less
•Ignition voltage is greater than 11
V
•Vehicle speed is greater than 25
kph (15.5mph)
•Brake booster pressure is greater than 42.0kPa (6psi)
•Vehicle is not in fuel shut of mode

When cylinder deactivation is commanded, the ECM will determine what cylinder is firing and begin deactivation on the next closest deactivated cylinder in firing order sequence. For example, if cylinder number
1 is on its combustion event when cylinder deactivation is commanded ON, the next cylinder in the firing order sequence that can be deactivated is cylinder number7. If cylinder number5 is on its combustion event when cylinder deactivation is commanded ON, then the next cylinder in the firing order sequence that can be deactivated is cylinder number4.

Cylinder deactivation is accomplished by not allowing the intake and exhaust valves to open on the selected cylinders by using special valve lifters. The deactivation lifters contain spring loaded locking pins that connect the internal pin housing of the lifter to the outer housing.

The pin housing contains the lifter plunger and pushrod seat which interfaces with the pushrod. The outer housing contacts the camshaft lobe through a roller. During V8
mode, when all cylinders are active, the locking pins are pushed outward by spring force, locking the pin housing and outer housing together causing the lifter to function as a normal lifter. When cylinder deactivation is commanded ON, the locking pins are pushed inward with engine oil pressure directed from the valve lifter oil manifold assembly solenoids. When the lifter pin housing is unlocked from the outer housing, the pin housing will remain stationary, while the outer housing will move with the profile of the camshaft lobe, which results in the valve remaining closed. One valve lifter oil manifold assembly solenoid controls both the intake and exhaust valves for each deactivating cylinder. There are 2distinct oil passages going to each cylinder deactivation lifter bore, one for the hydraulic lash-adjusting feature of the lifter, and one for controlling the locking pins used for cylinder deactivation.

Although both intake and exhaust valve lifters are controlled by the same solenoid in the valve lifter oil manifold assembly, the intake and exhaust valves do not become deactivated at the same time. Cylinder deactivation is timed so that the cylinder is on an intake event. During an intake event, the intake cam lobe is pushing the valve lifter upwards to open the intake valve against the force of the valve spring. The force exerted by the valve spring is acting on the side of the lifter locking pins, preventing them from moving until the intake valve has closed. When the intake valve lifter reaches the base circle of the camshaft lobe, the valve spring force is reduced, allowing the locking pins to move, deactivating the intake valve. However, when cylinder deactivation is commanded ON, the exhaust valve for the deactivated cylinder is in the closed position, allowing the locking pins on the valve lifter to move immediately, and deactivate the exhaust valve.

By deactivating the exhaust valve first, this allows the capture of a burnt air/fuel charge, or exhaust gas charge, in the combustion chamber. The capture of exhaust gases in the combustion chamber will contribute to a reduction in oil consumption, noise and vibration levels, and exhaust emissions when operating in V4
mode cylinder deactivation mode.

During the transition from V8 to V4mode, the Fuel Injectors will be turned OFF on the deactivated cylinders. To help prevent spark plug fouling, the ignition system secondary voltage or spark is still present across the spark plug electrodes on the deactivated cylinders. If all enabling conditions are met and maintained for cylinder deactivation operation, the ECM calibrations will limit cylinder deactivation to a cycle time of 10minutes in V4mode, then return to V8mode for 1minute.

Switching between V8 and V4modes is accomplished in less than 250milliseconds, making the transitions seamless and transparent to the vehicle operator. The 250milliseconds includes the time for the ECM to sequence the transitions, the response time for the valve lifter oil manifold assembly solenoids to energize, and the time for the valve lifters to deactivate, all within 2revolutions of the engine crankshaft.

Valve Lifter Oil Manifold Assembly


The cylinder deactivation system uses an electro-hydraulic actuator device called the valve lifter oil manifold assembly. The valve lifter oil manifold assembly is bolted to the top of the engine valley, below the intake manifold assembly. The valve lifter oil manifold assembly consists of 4electrically operated normally closed solenoids. Each solenoid controls the application of engine oil pressure to the intake and exhaust valve lifters on the cylinders selected to deactivate. Engine oil pressure is routed to the valve lifter oil manifold assembly from an internal oil passage on the rear of the cylinder block.

All 4
valve lifter oil manifold assembly solenoids are connected in parallel to a fused ignition1 voltage circuit, supplied by the powertrain relay. The ground or control circuit for each solenoid is connected to a low side driver internal to the engine control module (ECM).

When all enabling conditions are met for cylinder deactivation, the ECM will ground each solenoid control circuit in firing order sequence, allowing current to flow through the solenoid windings. With the coil windings energized, the solenoid valve opens, redirecting engine oil pressure through the valve lifter oil manifold assembly into 8
separate vertical passages in the engine lifter valley. The 8vertical passages, 2per cylinder, are connected to the valve lifter bores of the cylinders to be deactivated. When vehicle-operating conditions require a return to V8mode, the ECM will turn OFF the control circuit for the solenoids, allowing the solenoid valves to close. With the solenoid valves closed, engine oil pressure in the control ports is exhausted through the body of the solenoids into the engine block lifter valley. The housing of the valve lifter oil manifold assembly incorporates several bleeds in the oil passages to purge any air trapped in the valve lifter oil manifold assembly or engine block.

To help control contamination to the hydraulic circuits, a small replaceable oil screen is located in the valve lifter oil manifold assembly oil inlet passage, below the oil pressure sensor. The oil pressure sensor is a 3-wire sensor which provides oil pressure information to the ECM.

During service, use extreme care in keeping the valve lifter oil manifold assembly free of any contamination or foreign material.

Cylinder deactivation may be inhibited for many reasons including the following:

•Engine coolant temperature out of range for cylinder activation
•Engine vacuum out of range
•Accelerator pedal out of range or rate of pedal application to fast
•Engine oil pressure and temperature out of range
•Engine speed out of range
•Vehicle speed out of range
•Minimum time in V8 mode not met
•Maximum V4 mode time exceeded
•Decel fuel cutoff is active
•Reduced engine power is active
•Torque management is active
•Catalytic converter over temperature protection is active
•Piston protection is active, knock detected
•Cylinder deactivation solenoid driver circuit faults

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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 06:09 PM
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That explains the slight noise I hear when the engine goes from v8 to v4 mode. Thanks!
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