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Old Mar 29, 2024 | 07:34 PM
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Old Mar 29, 2024 | 11:13 PM
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you have my interest....
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If it's $20k or less I'll be getting in line, but probably closer to $30-40k...still, pretty exciting news.

Looks like pricing is up on their page, $30k...guess I'll start saving.

https://www.lingenfelter.com/product...orvette-engine

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Would this engine be reliable enough for roadcourse track use? Would it be as reliable as stock engine, or would it need frequent rebuilds?
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The difference between new Z51 and Z06 I would spec out (at MSRP) is only $30k.
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Would this engine be reliable enough for roadcourse track use? Would it be as reliable as stock engine, or would it need frequent rebuilds?
The thing I’d be worried about is the DCT holding up to the extra power.
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Would be nice if they posted sae numbers -
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Thought I saw somewhere that Tremec says the DCT is good for around 590 foot pounds of torque.
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Their dyno graph is hokey, curves cross in the wrong spot. Unless they separated the vertical axes right and left for tq/hp. I went to their website and see the same thing.
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Lingenfelter builds are Impressive, when experienced first-hand.
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I would like this more than doing FI, but it is pricey. And its about twice the price of just doing a heads & cam package, which makes for an expensive stroker kit.
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Originally Posted by kjchristopher
The difference between new Z51 and Z06 I would spec out (at MSRP) is only $30k.
For sure! If you want more performance than the Stingray, going to a Z06 makes a lot of sense...especially when you factor in resale value down the road.
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Originally Posted by kjchristopher
The difference between new Z51 and Z06 I would spec out (at MSRP) is only $30k.

My personal choice would be the 427 Lingenfelter C8 SR over a C8 Z06. One of my factors is LPE builds are stunning and have been producing successful Corvette engines for 40 years. As many large cities do, we have a highend speed shop that support LTE builds.

All these numbers are factory rated at the flywheel. The SR LT2 427 Dyno's at 704HP and 600TQ surpassing the Z06 of 670HP and 460TQ. I feel additional attention has gone into the Spec S Camshaft and has been fully tested by LPE to withstand the 427 ideal powerband for the DCT gearbox.

Of these two fully NA engines it would be the LTE 427 700+HP with the +140 torquey LT2 over the LT6.
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Originally Posted by ArizonaZ06
My personal choice would be the 427 Lingenfelter C8 SR over a C8 Z06. One of my factors is LPE builds are stunning and have been producing successful Corvette engines for 40 years. As many large cities do, we have a highend speed shop that support LTE builds.

All these numbers are factory rated at the flywheel. The SR LT2 427 Dyno's at 704HP and 600TQ surpassing the Z06 of 670HP and 460TQ. I feel additional attention has gone into the Spec S Camshaft and has been fully tested by LPE to withstand the 427 ideal powerband for the DCT gearbox.

Of these two fully NA engines it would be the LTE 427 700+HP with the +140 torquey LT2 over the LT6.
The 704hp STD correction factor is actually probably very close to the 670hp SAE numbers, think Lingenfelter chose STD to surpass 700 as it grabs more attention though not an apples to apples comparison. The greater torque output of the 427 will put more strain on the DCT and it’s clutches, so that would be my concern as stated.
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Originally Posted by ArizonaZ06
My personal choice would be the 427 Lingenfelter C8 SR over a C8 Z06. One of my factors is LPE builds are stunning and have been producing successful Corvette engines for 40 years. As many large cities do, we have a highend speed shop that support LTE builds.

All these numbers are factory rated at the flywheel. The SR LT2 427 Dyno's at 704HP and 600TQ surpassing the Z06 of 670HP and 460TQ. I feel additional attention has gone into the Spec S Camshaft and has been fully tested by LPE to withstand the 427 ideal powerband for the DCT gearbox.

Of these two fully NA engines it would be the LTE 427 700+HP with the +140 torquey LT2 over the LT6.
Definitely will be a very different driving experience between a stingray with a 427 and the Z06. The stingray with the 427 will have that traditional powerband and overall a more relaxed feel when cruising along compared to a Z06.

As a result of bigger displacement, hotter cam, and no AFM will the MPG iwth a 427 will likely plummet. Nobody buys a Z06 or does a 427 upgrade for MPG, but I do notice how often I do stop for fuel with the Z06 compared with my C8 Z51. Since the tank is the same size, I don't really notice the $$, but I do plan ahead more when doing club events or when going by the gas station near work that is a lot cheaper than near my house.
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Seems like a sweet package for $30k for someone who wants more horsepower and torque than a Z06 in their 'regular' C8 and doesn't want to incur the costs of switching to a Z06. Going off Ligenfelter's history, it's going to be a good motor and the package should hold up even with the stock transmission.
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG
Seems like a sweet package for $30k for someone who wants more horsepower and torque than a Z06 in their 'regular' C8 and doesn't want to incur the costs of switching to a Z06. Going off Ligenfelter's history, it's going to be a good motor and the package should hold up even with the stock transmission.
I just wonder if the clutches can handle the extra torque? The LT6 doesn’t make more torque than the LT2 and the Z06 has steeper gearing which takes the strain off the clutch as well, but they upgraded the clutch on it iirc.
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I just wonder if the clutches can handle the extra torque? The LT6 doesn’t make more torque than the LT2 and the Z06 has steeper gearing which takes the strain off the clutch as well, but they upgraded the clutch on it iirc.
It's right on the edge. Now that Callies has developed the crank, I'd expect other builders to begin offering a similar package. It's pretty similar to their 8-counterweight Magnum cranks except balanced with Mallory metal.
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A cheap C8 perhaps with a rebuilt title plus the $30K for the upgrades would be good for the track.


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Originally Posted by RedLS6
Their dyno graph is hokey, curves cross in the wrong spot. Unless they separated the vertical axes right and left for tq/hp. I went to their website and see the same thing.
Dont torque and HP always cross at 5252 rpm?
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