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Old 01-15-2022, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AzDave47
Yes, and apparently those are pre-production tires as Michelin does not currently offer that size in the current A/S ZP tires. It is interesting in that you cannot get a A/S tire on the C8 Z51 from the factory, but GM sees the need to have and A/S tire on the Z06 mule, but probably will not offer that as a factory option.

Stupid GM marketing. In our local Corvette club of 200+ members, most would be best served with a high performance A/S tire as only 3-4 of us do any real performance driving and while the roads here in the winter are mostly clear for driving, temperatures in the teens are common.
Don’t disagree but I’d bet the only reason the tires were made for the Z06 was due to testing condition requirements. Realistically probably the majority of corvette owners don’t drive their vehicles in winter, nor ever in the rain if you believe for sale ads
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Originally Posted by JABCAT
Don’t disagree but I’d bet the only reason the tires were made for the Z06 was due to testing condition requirements. Realistically probably the majority of corvette owners don’t drive their vehicles in winter, nor ever in the rain if you believe for sale ads
I think they made them for the e-ray and knew years ago it would share the widebody. We've seen winter photos with the Alpin tires on mules, at least the C8 mules. Not 100% certain I've seen them on Z06 mules.
Old 01-15-2022, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
I think they made them for the e-ray and knew years ago it would share the widebody. We've seen winter photos with the Alpin tires on mules, at least the C8 mules. Not 100% certain I've seen them on Z06 mules.
Alpin are the snow tires, that mule had Pilot Sport 4 all-season Michelin ZP tires.
Old 01-16-2022, 12:38 AM
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Those heat exchangers have seen some miles. Makes me wonder why they didn’t use finer screens like many competitors. Did they design them to be more visible to reassure customers that the overheating issues are no more, or does the C8 really need the extra flow created by the minimalist plastic grills?
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Looks like Carbon Carbon rotors too?
Old 01-18-2022, 12:04 AM
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Looks like Carbon Carbon rotors too?
No, the are "normal" Carbon Ceramic. F1 teams run Carbon-carbon and they are at least $15K per corner.
Old 01-18-2022, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JABCAT
It's a Z06 mule.

Exhaust is not Z06. I know everyone on here likes to beat the exhaust like a dead horse, but LT6 appears to have been designed in mind to be center exit.

The side exit mules can't be Z06.
Old 01-18-2022, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Newdude
Exhaust is not Z06. I know everyone on here likes to beat the exhaust like a dead horse, but LT6 appears to have been designed in mind to be center exit.

The side exit mules can't be Z06.
My man you must have not being following this for years like most of us here. You are straight up wrong. They had allot of z06 mules running around with the side exhaust before they had finalized and actually produced the center exhaust versions. This is a well known fact.
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Old 01-18-2022, 10:38 AM
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Need a picture of the VIN!!!!!



A shot of the VIN tag would tell us FOR SURE if it was a Z06 or not...and silence the doubters...
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Originally Posted by Newdude
Exhaust is not Z06. I know everyone on here likes to beat the exhaust like a dead horse, but LT6 appears to have been designed in mind to be center exit.

The side exit mules can't be Z06.


I feel like you've been told you are wrong about this before.....

15:50 GM explains it themselves and you see it in action.
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Old 01-21-2022, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JABCAT
And surprisingly none of the C7 GSs or Z06 mules had cracked/bent wheels. None of the C8 Stingray mules had DCT issues, etc.
And no C6 Z06's ate their valves...
Old 01-21-2022, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AzDave47
Yes, and apparently those are pre-production tires as Michelin does not currently offer that size in the current A/S ZP tires. It is interesting in that you cannot get a A/S tire on the C8 Z51 from the factory, but GM sees the need to have and A/S tire on the Z06 mule, but probably will not offer that as a factory option.

Stupid GM marketing. In our local Corvette club of 200+ members, most would be best served with a high performance A/S tire as only 3-4 of us do any real performance driving and while the roads here in the winter are mostly clear for driving, temperatures in the teens are common.
They're driving in winter. There are patches of snow on the ground. GM isn't dumb enough to put the Z06 on winter roads with Cup2 (or even S4) tires.

These tires might not be available on the Z06, but probably will be on the E-Ray, and will certainly be available aftermarket.
Old 01-21-2022, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DSOMrulz
They're driving in winter. There are patches of snow on the ground. GM isn't dumb enough to put the Z06 on winter roads with Cup2 (or even S4) tires.

These tires might not be available on the Z06, but probably will be on the E-Ray, and will certainly be available aftermarket.
Yes, so like the 80%+ of C8 Z51 owners that would be best served from the factory with performance A/S tires but who have to wait until the PS4s are worn out or sell them at a loss rather than be able to order the car with the best tires for their (moderate) driving style (never exceed 0.8Gs cornering and think they are pushing it), C8 Z06 owners will have to do the same thing with their PS4s.

I happen to run my PS4s hard and can pull over 0.9 Gs - at 40* or less, so I may not be a candidate for the performance A/S tires, but far more than half of the C8 Z06 owners would be better served FROM THE START with those tires. GM doesn't let us make the choice that is right for us --- the customer.
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Not too many places on the street around here where a Z06 running high performance A/S tires would run out of grip. Most places the speed is going to be too slow or the pavement is in less than ideal condition. So yes, I'd check that box and probably get a few more driving days from the car. While it was 19* the day I picked-up my Z51 and it drove just fine at that temp, I generally leave it parked when temps are much below 30*.
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Originally Posted by AzDave47
Yes, so like the 80%+ of C8 Z51 owners that would be best served from the factory with performance A/S tires but who have to wait until the PS4s are worn out or sell them at a loss rather than be able to order the car with the best tires for their (moderate) driving style (never exceed 0.8Gs cornering and think they are pushing it), C8 Z06 owners will have to do the same thing with their PS4s.

I happen to run my PS4s hard and can pull over 0.9 Gs - at 40* or less, so I may not be a candidate for the performance A/S tires, but far more than half of the C8 Z06 owners would be better served FROM THE START with those tires. GM doesn't let us make the choice that is right for us --- the customer.
How many guys buying a C8Z are buying it as their only car do you think? You are recommending a solution for a problem that, for most, doesn't exist. Virtually all C8Z buyers surely have other cars that are more than capable of handling inclement weather and want no part of having A/S tires on their new Z.
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Old 01-21-2022, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
Not too many places on the street around here where a Z06 running high performance A/S tires would run out of grip. Most places the speed is going to be too slow or the pavement is in less than ideal condition. So yes, I'd check that box and probably get a few more driving days from the car. While it was 19* the day I picked-up my Z51 and it drove just fine at that temp, I generally leave it parked when temps are much below 30*.
I have to agree with you that if all you're doing is making a leisurely drive to C&C then you are not likely to run out of grip. I guess I drive my Vettes a little differently.

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Old 01-21-2022, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SharkDiverZ06
How many guys buying a C8Z are buying it as their only car do you think? You are recommending a solution for a problem that, for most, doesn't exist. Virtually all C8Z buyers surely have other cars that are more than capable of handling inclement weather and want no part of having A/S tires on their new Z.
Yes they have other cars (me too) but there are many parts of the country, including where I live, where winter weather is mostly sunny, just down in the teens in the morning and many of us drive our Corvettes all year round. When it snows, I drive other vehicles, but a couple days later and back in the Corvette.

Yes, this includes Z06 drivers, not just base Corvettes. Many Z06 buyers get them because of the performance they offer and like to talk about what it can do, even if they never exceed 0.8 Gs or get on the power for more than 4 seconds before they are at speeds where their cars can get confiscated. Perhaps you have read on the forum here that less than 5% of Corvette drivers track there cars (drags or road courses)? In our Corvette club of 200+ members, only 3 of us do any track driving, so 1,5%
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Originally Posted by AzDave47
Yes they have other cars (me too) but there are many parts of the country, including where I live, where winter weather is mostly sunny, just down in the teens in the morning and many of us drive our Corvettes all year round. When it snows, I drive other vehicles, but a couple days later and back in the Corvette.

Yes, this includes Z06 drivers, not just base Corvettes. Many Z06 buyers get them because of the performance they offer and like to talk about what it can do, even if they never exceed 0.8 Gs or get on the power for more than 4 seconds before they are at speeds where their cars can get confiscated. Perhaps you have read on the forum here that less than 5% of Corvette drivers track there cars (drags or road courses)? In our Corvette club of 200+ members, only 3 of us do any track driving, so 1,5%
I completely agree with this...I'm in Colorado and drive my Vette year round as well, but I've never had or needed A/S tires to do it, which was my only point. I wouldn't do this with Cup 2 Rs, but you should have no problem with the 4Ss on dry winter roads.
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I hope GM "shocks" us with a traditional C8 GS with a Z06 body.

If it ain't broke.......



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