NA FURY

If this car had been priced in the mid-to-low 90's to make a value statement that they would have been praised for, I would be on board without blinking. Now, since GM decided to take a different route by breaching the $100k threshold right out of the gate and pricing options in a manner that in my opinion places the car among serious competition from a performance, fit, and finish perspective - they are going to have to prove to me that they are delivering.

Show me the glowing reviews and a sub 7-minute ring time.

Z0HS1CK

You're right. I'm just speaking from my position. I'm low 300s so if i see a significant drop offs tomorrow, that just means more are probably on the way in subsequent weeks. At least from my number.

But i do believe from 1-200 or so i think those guys are really committed. Or to the very least, just get the car and resell it as soon as you get it. (i guess basically flipping it which isn't right but it's smart to do and not just give up an early spot).

JG853

I get it - You like the looks - And it does look like the other Exotics. Which is exactly my point. The other cars I mentioned also look "Exotic" given your parameters. Others manufacturers have combinations with all of the items too (The two that I mentioned as well as others) and no one considers them Supercars. They were not designed to have V8s either.

The flaws of the C8 Z06 are weight and gearing (What we know at this time). Do not diminish those too as from my perspective, they will make a big difference in performance. Plus, if you do not buy a C8 Z06 with Z07 and Carbon Wheels, the performance will not be what is "claimed" with the rolling starts etc.

The ACR-E and C7 ZR1 are not exotic cars - But they definitely are Supercars given your description of Supercar. Plus, they are absolute monsters in performance (And can be modded to further their performance). I sure hope the C8 Z06 Z07 is a monster too. I just am not buying in on all of the hype - The performance numbers of the car should have been released already. Just as everyone seemed to be surprised at the price when announced (I think we can all say a $160,000+ fully optioned C8 Z06 was a bit of a surprise, as is a base C8 Z06 Coupe with Z07, Exposed Carbon aero, Carbon Roof, Carbon Revolution Wheels, and Competition Seats being $142,XXX was a bit of a surprise as well).

Z0HS1CK

I would actually classify the ACR as a supercar and not the ZR1. Again, this is my opinion.

Had it not be for small differences from the C7Z to the C7ZR, i would probably call the ZR1 a supercar given it was a 1 year only model with the performance it brings. But again, it's just a better version of the C7Z (which isn't a supercar), IMHO.

The C8Z is. Everything we know about it makes it a supercar. Only flaw i see is the weight.

Being an actual supercar or having just supercar performance are different things to me. A car with supercar characteristics AND having supercar performance, to me, makes it a supercar. The C8Z, so far, clicks those boxes. Where the outgoing z06 and the C7ZR, did not.

DarthMaliceM1

Ford...now is the time...surprise launch of a Thunderbird c8 competitor starting at under 100K. Two engine choices...voodoo naturally aspirated or Predator...both with DCT from 500 standard....TREMEC from 350/Mach 1 optional.

rob62

Does anybody want to know what I think makes a superman car? I didn't think so.

Z0HS1CK

Actually all ford has to do is use the "redesigned" look of the mustang for the GT500, and give it AWD somehow. That would probably destroy a C8Z in most aspects of driving besides a ring time (if the C8Z even runs a fast ring time).

It'll have the power and the cars and coffee bragging rights most people have wanted in their C8Z. They'd just have to go get it from ford.

ZRacerLE

Hoping they'll at least do a gt350 early in the upcoming s650. A C8 competitor would be even better. There's going to be a huge lap time performance bargain gap once the camaro goes away.

EasyLivin

I'm going to watch what happens with the E-Ray more closely now... Widebody looks, AWD and more horsepower and torque with less fuel is sounding better all the time...

JockItch

And don’t forget most optioned out Z06’s will be more expensive than one. My perspective from an expectations standpoint have definitely changed.

JockItch

Exactly what Mary and company want. Mission accomplished.

SRF7879

What's interesting to me is that over 1/3 are still on the fence. The higher price has spoken. Less than 50%, are sure is also telling. GM might have missed this reaction, but will still sell all they make.

I would expect the E-Ray pricing will have a similar fate. It's hard to say, how this all shakes with potential E-Ray buyers.
​​​​​​They will have to take a hard look at if it is worth the added price to get only a 105 additional HP with adding all the weight.

kratedisease

So the first year C7 2015 Z06 MSRP was $78,995 or $79k rounded up. The base C7 in 2015 was $53,000 according to corvette blogger.

That makes the first year 2015 C7 Z06 149% more in price than the base that year.

The first year 2006 C6 Z06 MSRP was $65,800 and the base C6 that same year was $43,690

That makes the first year 2006 Z06 exactly 150% more in price than the base that year

The base 2023 corvette is priced at $64,200 and multiply that by 150% = $96,300 but we need to add 10% for inflation and higher material costs = $105,930 EXACTLY

No one truthfully should be shocked.

Tripjammer

The E-Ray will be a $85k version of the Ferrari SF90 just with much less power but with better sound! I was gonna say Ferrari F296 but the Ferrari F296 is RWD and a sweet sounding V6! Actually the E-RAY will be a better version of the Acura NSX! Chevy will probably sell a bunch of E-rays! It will be the sweet spot in the lineup if they can get the pricing right!

NoOne

If it wasn't for the FPC I'd never think of a Z06 but I'd take an eray in second.

AWD hybrids are stupid off the line. My wife's 4XE Wrangler is dead even to 50 with my 485hp AWD s5 if I don't use launch control. Even with launch control it's closer then you'd think for a 5800lb brick.

It is instant and immediate torque. It runs out of gas pretty quick mostly limited by it's 97mph top speed and lazy trans.

After driving that I was sold in performance hybrids.

SRF7879

All I can say is good luck with the pricing on the E-ray. You will need it. By the time you would get one, the base Z06 Pricing will be at least $113,000.and have at least two if not 3 inflation price increases. I was one of those that picked 89,900. Don't estimate based on the Old Grand Sport pricing or build. If you do, you like me will be very disappointed.

Production of the E-ray will not start next year, with GM's current supply issues and why should it? They can sell everything, they can build now and there is not an additional way to produce more, than plant capacity. ^

raleona

It better not have soft paint. At the price point of $150K this Corvette had better deliver (quality and performance) or, the new first-time buyers will jump ship immediately to Porsche. A percentage of the brand loyalists might flee as well. Tadge and his group have a rather large task. Ensure this C8 ZO6 goes down in history as the most reliable Corvette ever.

msm859

Which is why I say it will be substantially less expensive.

raleona

That's the issue I have ZOHS1CK. This perceived notion that spending $106,000 for an assembly line built 992 is somehow a super car but, the Corvette is not. The Corvette stopped sitting at the kids table when the C7 Stingray was unveiled. The old rule of; "it's just a Chevy" no longer applies. This makes the Chevy faithful nervous. Very nervous. We as a group need to get over it. The C8 ZO6 is a super car. NOTE: Except for service. Smile

msm859

The ERay will start production next year. Why? Because they already said so. There are probably a lot of reasons the Z06 is priced the way it is. Few of them actually related to pricing on the ERay.