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Old 07-16-2022, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
I honestly believe it's not the actual price that people are complaining and "pretending" they're getting off the list, i think it's the fact that they couldn't get the price they wanted.

We all want a lower price. Why would anyone want to pay more? But i knew from so long ago that this would NOT be "in line" with z06 pricing. I don't care what anyone said. This car is actually a supercar now. Whereas the C7Z and C7ZR was not.

People kept making jokes saying does the engine cost 25k more than the stingray? Or some nonsense like that. There was someone here that actually broke it down in prices that the z06 could cost 85k and have a TT FPC.

All i gotta say is LOL @ that.

Man the amount of wrong assumptions about the car is amusing. While i know nothing about corvette history or the engineering of it or all that, i do know that GM had something special with this car and they WERE NOT going to let this go cheap. I said it months ago i was being forgiving about my long time 95k prediction because i do believe with all the hype, promos, the video, the online visualizer, all the gigantic *** wait lists, all the talks on these boards, exotic owners wanting a piece of this car yada yada yada, that THEY WILL make this car a bit more expensive.

And i was god damn right, AGAIN.
When the price gets over $100K, people will get off of lists. They are not "pretending". Some already have. Even your $95K prediction was wrong by $11K. That's real money to most people.

The step up from the 2019 Stingray to the Z06 was $24K. Now it is over $40K. That's $16K difference. That's in a different league. Of course, buyers are going to drop out.

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Originally Posted by VetteHalen5150
EXACTLY! At $150K to $200K, I'm now looking at Porsche 911 instead. I love the look and sound of the Z06, but it will NOT hold it's value at these prices. If the Z06 was mostly carbon fiber like the exotics, it might be stand a chance. But, at the end of the day it is just a very nice Chevy with all the things that go along with owning a Chevy (i.e. depreciation, terrible dealers, plastic parts, etc). So much for an AFFORDABLE American sports car!
You have to ask yourself, why do these clowns, take the time to read Corvette forums? They must not have a life.
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Old 07-16-2022, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 555ctsv
Agreed, I roll my eyes every time someone posts that. I think it makes the poster feel superior or something

"They'll sell every one they make"
Dhuuurrrr

That syaing always drives me crazy as people throw it out like its some super awesome point. It just doesn't make a shred of sense. Usually I just roll my eyes and move on.

But sometimes I'm already annoyed about something else and just have to say something lol
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Originally Posted by Stackenali
Nothing about the Corvette is "just Chevy."

Even if you feel that way, why does it matter?

Pcar are just VW, Acura are just Honda,
these salty posts are Now saying oohh it's a chevy. 2 years ago they were licking chevy boots with the "just a chevy" c8 Stingray 🤣🤣🤣
Old 07-16-2022, 02:37 PM
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I actually think there will be some people that never considered a Corvette now coming to the brand. Not they didn't like the car but they didn't want to be seen in a $80K car because it didn't "flex" enough but a $150K car does.
Old 07-16-2022, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael A
When the price gets over $100K, people will get off of lists. They are not "pretending". Some already have. Even your $95K prediction was wrong by $11K. That's real money to most people.

The step up from the 2019 Stingray to the Z06 was $24K. Now it is over $40K. That's $16K difference. That's in a different league. Of course, buyers are going to drop out.
We'll see what the early list people have done once MM updates their list on monday.

As far as my prediction, yeah it wasn't 95k but the poll in another thread shows 95% of this forum have the car under 95k and myself and about 2 other people have the car at 95k or higher. Someone even said 169 which technically they're not wrong if you have a fully loaded Z07 car.

Closest without going over is the name of the game. I was right like always.

No big deal. You can be right and you can be wrong. I just so happen to be right. You guys were insanely wrong.

I'm still getting the car.
Old 07-16-2022, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Panfish
On the fence, and happy to be. I don’t see the value vs. the price point over the stingray for non-track drivers, except bragging rights. To me, $50,000 isn’t worth the bragging at a car show. Most non C8 people can’t tell the difference anyway.

lmao girls definitely cant haha
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Originally Posted by Litshopofguitars
I’m in the low 500’s at ciocca, I’d sell my spot for $1.00 + the deposit, but they won’t allow that!
I kind of lost interest, especially after the reviled pricing!

I think GM is way smarter then we think!
they see all the markups, flipping, and over pricing “supply & demand” you say!!!!
more people want the car then will ever be made, so why not sell the same amount of cars, after all the drop off’s, and us (GM) make an additional $15,000+ on each instead of the dealers and the flippers!
that’s why it took so long for the pricing to come out, it was big meetings at the top of the food chain at GM! Because that’s a big decision.
Just my opinion!
The problem with meetings at GM, is GM is a "yes" person organization. All it takes is one big wig to declare something, and everyone else below him/her goes along with it to keep their job. Dissention is not tolerated.
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Old 07-16-2022, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinprimetime
these salty posts are Now saying oohh it's a chevy. 2 years ago they were licking chevy boots with the "just a chevy" c8 Stingray 🤣🤣🤣
The difference between the two being that the Stingray is an incredible value and the Z06 feels vastly overpriced. The Stingray was, "Wow! Looks at what Chevrolet can do! Incredible!"
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Old 07-16-2022, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckyCharmsYo
It’s really annoying. I’m considering it. The price isn’t unaffordable for me, but I just can’t imagine how a Z06 would ever be worth nearly $150k with how I’d want to spec it. I’d rather get a used R8 V10 or a Mclaren 570S for that much…
i agree and I’m in the same boat. I can afford one all day long but Government Motors can kiss my rear if they think I’m paying $150,000 for a loaded Chevy.
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Old 07-16-2022, 04:41 PM
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I would buy one if they don’t make a grand sport.
Old 07-16-2022, 05:14 PM
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Most non C 8 people don't even know a Stingray is a GM vehicle. They think it is a Europen car of some sort.
Old 07-16-2022, 05:16 PM
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My only complaint is for 100k they need to offer colors that aren’t garbage. Green or teal like Porsche
Old 07-16-2022, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Stackenali
Nothing about the Corvette is "just Chevy."

Even if you feel that way, why does it matter?

Pcar are just VW, Acura are just Honda,
Actually a Pcar is still Porsche owned not a VW. Porsche AG is the holding company for the Porsche family, which has the majority of voting shares in VW. In other words the Porsche family still controls Porsche, along with VW, Lambo, Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Ducati, etc, etc

Originally Posted by smithers
Do you get Porsches serviced at a shitty VW dealer, or a nice Porsche dealer that provides great service?

The parent company is almost completely irrelevant. Chevy dealer quality is just all over the place. High end brands that may be owned by VW operate their own dealerships that are far better than any VW or Chevy dealer.
So my Huracan is actually in for yearly service at Lambo Sarasota, I didn't buy my Lambo from them I bought it from Lambo STL. I didn't take my Lambo in for service, Lambo Sarasota came to my house with an enclosed trailer and picked it up like they did last year and the year before. I received a text the other day from the tech doing the service and it was just a walk around of the car going over some things he is going to do and showing the underside of it and pointing out anything(I'm going to need tires soon). I just left my house in FL for my house in MO. Lambo Sarasota is going to keep my car, stored inside for a couple weeks until I get back to FL which they they will deliver it via enclosed trailer to my house. Obviously I paid a lot more for my Huracan than a z06 will be but when you're going to spend 150k on a car you would hope you would be treated better than the way a typical Chevy dealer treats their customers, but you wont.
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Exactly what part of a C8 Z06 is a supercar? Because it is ME Platform? Because it has a Flat Plane Crank engine? What exactly was released about the new C8 Z06 performance wise that tells you it is a supercar? You mean the 10.6 quarter mile time with a rolling start? Or the 2.6 0-60? Or are you referring to the C8 Z06 Z07 weighing 3700 pounds with Carbon Revolution wheels?

Let's see what it runs before telling all of us that it is a Supercar. I definitely look forward to what this car will run at The Ring (Even if we get a non official time) as well as at VIR (The domestic proving grounds). I do not think it will be faster than a C7 ZR1 - But we shall see.


Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
I honestly believe it's not the actual price that people are complaining and "pretending" they're getting off the list, i think it's the fact that they couldn't get the price they wanted.

We all want a lower price. Why would anyone want to pay more? But i knew from so long ago that this would NOT be "in line" with z06 pricing. I don't care what anyone said. This car is actually a supercar now. Whereas the C7Z and C7ZR was not.

People kept making jokes saying does the engine cost 25k more than the stingray? Or some nonsense like that. There was someone here that actually broke it down in prices that the z06 could cost 85k and have a TT FPC.

All i gotta say is LOL @ that.

Man the amount of wrong assumptions about the car is amusing. While i know nothing about corvette history or the engineering of it or all that, i do know that GM had something special with this car and they WERE NOT going to let this go cheap. I said it months ago i was being forgiving about my long time 95k prediction because i do believe with all the hype, promos, the video, the online visualizer, all the gigantic *** wait lists, all the talks on these boards, exotic owners wanting a piece of this car yada yada yada, that THEY WILL make this car a bit more expensive.

And i was god damn right, AGAIN.
Old 07-16-2022, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EasyLivin
There are a bunch of factors in play here with the looming recession and the high interest rates... I'm sure a lot of guys on the lists did their math with a 2.99 APR loan so if they were somewhat on the fence they may not make it over... Also down the road in a recession there will be job losses and capital investment losses...Then on the upside if you can still buy the car there will probably be other things more worthwhile buying at discount prices.
Who in the hell spending $150-200,000 is worried about 2.99APR?
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Originally Posted by JG853
Exactly what part of a C8 Z06 is a supercar? Because it is ME Platform? Because it has a Flat Plane Crank engine? What exactly was released about the new C8 Z06 performance wise that tells you it is a supercar? You mean the 10.6 quarter mile time with a rolling start? Or the 2.6 0-60? Or are you referring to the C8 Z06 Z07 weighing 3700 pounds with Carbon Revolution wheels?

Let's see what it runs before telling all of us that it is a Supercar. I definitely look forward to what this car will run at The Ring (Even if we get a non official time) as well as at VIR (The domestic proving grounds). I do not think it will be faster than a C7 ZR1 - But we shall see.
I don't think it can he excluded from the ranks of the Supercars. Due to being a volume produced car, one you will see fairly commonly, it may not be exotic, but due to the factors you mentioned at the outset, I do consider it a Supercar. Even the Stingray, it can be argued, has Supercar specs and performance. The Z06 will only improve on the Stingray's numbers. So yes, by that reasoning, I believe the Z06 is a Supercar.
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Old 07-16-2022, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JG853
Exactly what part of a C8 Z06 is a supercar? Because it is ME Platform? Because it has a Flat Plane Crank engine? What exactly was released about the new C8 Z06 performance wise that tells you it is a supercar? You mean the 10.6 quarter mile time with a rolling start? Or the 2.6 0-60? Or are you referring to the C8 Z06 Z07 weighing 3700 pounds with Carbon Revolution wheels?

Let's see what it runs before telling all of us that it is a Supercar. I definitely look forward to what this car will run at The Ring (Even if we get a non official time) as well as at VIR (The domestic proving grounds). I do not think it will be faster than a C7 ZR1 - But we shall see.

So the C7Z and C7ZR had supercar NUMBERS, without the supercar price. Problem is, is that the engine is basically a truck engine. Used in multiple GM products.

The C8Z, like you said, because of the mid engine, the fancier performance numbers, the potential to run the ring around the 7 minute mark, the bespoke engine, the DCT. Yeah all that points to it finally being a supercar, since it will obviously outperform the outgoing z06. Not sure about the C7ZR.

It might not be an actual exotic car, since exotic car usually means "exotic" materials like more CF and other expensive materials to make it lighter which will in turn make the price more expensive. It is definitely a supercar. The C7Z/ZR, IMHO, was not. It just had supercar performance.
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I think you and Z0HSIX are mistaking the term Supercar - but to each their own. If you are using a ME Platform as the reasoning, is the Alfa Romeo 4C, or Porsche 718 a Supercar? I can name others too that are older... A Shelby GT350 had a Flat Plane Crank, so that that aspect away. The 10.6 quarter mile time on a rolling start? How many guys hit 2.8 0-60 in their C8 Stingray?

To each their own - I do like the C8 Z06. But at 3700 pounds plus, that is pushing the weight limit for me personally. I thought my C7 ZR1 was pushing it, and it is 150 pounds lighter.

Originally Posted by larryfdx
I don't think it can he excluded from the ranks of the Supercars. Due to being a volume produced car, one you will see fairly commonly, it may not be exotic, but due to the factors you mentioned at the outset, I do consider it a Supercar. Even the Stingray, it can be argued, has Supercar specs and performance. The Z06 will only improve on the Stingray's numbers. So yes, by that reasoning, I believe the Z06 is a Supercar.

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No one will ever agree on the definition of supercar. To some it’s a level of performance. To some it’s performance and exclusivity. But then that brings the question what is an exotic car.

But really, who cares… lol
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