Zaino and Base Coat only paint?
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Zaino and Base Coat only paint?
Hi:
I have an '81 that was built at the St. Louis plant. As such it received Base Coat only paint. Doesn't have a clear coat.
Any idea which Zaino product might be most appropriate? AIO? Z5 or Z2?
None? Wax instead?
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I have an '81 that was built at the St. Louis plant. As such it received Base Coat only paint. Doesn't have a clear coat.
Any idea which Zaino product might be most appropriate? AIO? Z5 or Z2?
None? Wax instead?
Thanks!
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AIO, Z-3 +ZFX
Z-3™ Show Car Polish (Single Stage paint)
To meet the needs of standard single stage paints, which tend to oxidize, shrink and lose their resiliency faster, it also includes a custom blend of emulsifiers; which gently condition and maintain your car's paint.
Contains state-of-the-art optical enhancers and gloss additives that bring out the true colour and clarity of your paint. To enhance protection, Z-3 contains Ultra-Gard™ ultra violet (UV) protection, which offers the ultimate protection against fading and shrinking. Also contains a special flex-additive that keeps your car's paint resilient and elastic. The flex-additive also restores the gloss on rubber and plastic painted parts, which have a tendency to fade and lose gloss faster than the rest of the vehicle. Zaino website
Z-3™ Show Car Polish (Single Stage paint)
To meet the needs of standard single stage paints, which tend to oxidize, shrink and lose their resiliency faster, it also includes a custom blend of emulsifiers; which gently condition and maintain your car's paint.
Contains state-of-the-art optical enhancers and gloss additives that bring out the true colour and clarity of your paint. To enhance protection, Z-3 contains Ultra-Gard™ ultra violet (UV) protection, which offers the ultimate protection against fading and shrinking. Also contains a special flex-additive that keeps your car's paint resilient and elastic. The flex-additive also restores the gloss on rubber and plastic painted parts, which have a tendency to fade and lose gloss faster than the rest of the vehicle. Zaino website
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I know Z3 is designed for SS paint, but I've used Z5 plenty of times on SS paint and it seems to hold up rather well also.
TOGWT just listed the differences, but after reading them I'm still not quite sure what the difference is between Z3 and Z5.
I would definitely polish it first or at least use the ZAIO as SS paint has a tendency to fade/oxidize very quickly.
Josh
TOGWT just listed the differences, but after reading them I'm still not quite sure what the difference is between Z3 and Z5.
I would definitely polish it first or at least use the ZAIO as SS paint has a tendency to fade/oxidize very quickly.
Josh
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My 61 is a single stage Urethane and I use all the Zaino products and it looks great. Z2, Z5, AIO, Clear Sealant, Z6 and Z8. I can't imagine it looking any better. Shines as well as my BC/CC cars.
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I know Z3 is designed for SS paint, but I've used Z5 plenty of times on SS paint and it seems to hold up rather well also.
TOGWT just listed the differences, but after reading them I'm still not quite sure what the difference is between Z3 and Z5.
I would definitely polish it first or at least use the ZAIO as SS paint has a tendency to fade/oxidize very quickly.
Josh
TOGWT just listed the differences, but after reading them I'm still not quite sure what the difference is between Z3 and Z5.
I would definitely polish it first or at least use the ZAIO as SS paint has a tendency to fade/oxidize very quickly.
Josh
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If you are going to let your 81' sit out in the sun a lot then Z-3 would be a good choice, it contains additives that will retard oxidation, if your car is only going to shows or events, or is more a garage queen I would use Z-2 or Z-5, have many customers that use Z-2 or Z-5 on their single stage paint because their cars are mostly garaged.
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Thanks for the replies guys!
I'd also like to polish the car first, as suggested above.
It's in good condition already, but in the fluorescent light in my garage I ca see that it needs some care.
I have a PC7424 and some Zaino Fusion. Anyone see any problems with this approach?
By the way.....this paint, I'm told is about 3 years old.
Thanks!
I'd also like to polish the car first, as suggested above.
It's in good condition already, but in the fluorescent light in my garage I ca see that it needs some care.
I have a PC7424 and some Zaino Fusion. Anyone see any problems with this approach?
By the way.....this paint, I'm told is about 3 years old.
Thanks!
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So its' SS paint but new??
I don't see any problems with that approach but it really depends on the condition of the swirls, if you can see them with your florescent garage lighting then I'm betting it's a little worse then you think.
Zaino ZPC (fuzion) is an ok product, but really designed more as a paint cleaner and not so much as a swirl remover, although it can remove some light swirling, just not the best at it IMO.
If you're wanting more paint correction products to be used with a DA, I would try some Meg's 105, 205, or Menzerna SIP to remove swirls.
Josh
I don't see any problems with that approach but it really depends on the condition of the swirls, if you can see them with your florescent garage lighting then I'm betting it's a little worse then you think.
Zaino ZPC (fuzion) is an ok product, but really designed more as a paint cleaner and not so much as a swirl remover, although it can remove some light swirling, just not the best at it IMO.
If you're wanting more paint correction products to be used with a DA, I would try some Meg's 105, 205, or Menzerna SIP to remove swirls.
Josh
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I'm assuming it's SS, as original. How do I tell? My C5 has a depth to it that the C3 does't. Any other way to tell if SS or BC/CC?
Does it even matter as far as polishing technique and materials using the PC?
Does it even matter as far as polishing technique and materials using the PC?
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When you use an abrasive product (polish) on a vehicle with single stage paint, you will notice paint transfer on your pads; this paint system is “softer” than conventional paint systems and tends to oxidize more readily. When polishing or wet-sanding use caution because if you're not careful you could make an irreversible mistake that will require re-painting.IMO ss paint has a richer gloss than a cc finish
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this paint system is “softer” than conventional paint systems and tends to oxidize more readily. When polishing or wet-sanding use caution because if you're not careful you could make an irreversible mistake that will require re-painting.IMO ss paint has a richer gloss than a cc finish
I've noticed tonight that if I apply a bit of elbow-grease, I can eliminate the scratches and swirls by hand.