Gee all these years and I never knew what a muffler was

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muffler

A muffler (or silencer in British English) is a device for reducing the amount of noise emitted by a machine. On internal combustion engines, the engine exhaust blows out through the muffler.

 

Unless you've got dyno numbers, and decibel readings, I have a hard time believing both claims.

 

 

Well, that's the INTENDED use of a muffler.. However, not all mufflers really reduce the noise.. As I stated before, I've tried the Car Chemistry 2 disk muffler inserts for my pipes but it did noticeably reduce the noise.. Sure, maybe it was 5 - 10 db more quiet but at 130 db, it really isn't a noticeable difference.

 

I do have the dyno sheets somewhere.. This was with my old 383/465 HP engine.. Had 325 RWHP with the inserts and 365 RWHP with open pipes.. Of course I don't have db readings but I can guarantee you that the car was still as loud as it was before.. Like I said.. 10 db off 130 db is not noticeable.. I'm not claiming that there was NO difference, just that the difference was not noticeable.. Sure, they do make 5 disc inserts which probably would take 30+ db off, but the 2 disc inserts only took a few db off the noise.

 

Mufflers and decibel restrictions are a fact of life in racing...


Get used to it, or sell your stuff and play shuffleboard

 

Please name a track in the South that has a muffler requirement?

Again, this is not some communist Liberal state where people move near a existing race track (after getting the land cheap) and then complain about the noise and the state/country acts on behalf of those a-holes..

 

[QUOTE=GrandSportC3;1568534927]Please name a track in the South that has a muffler requirement? QUOTE]


I know the 3 tracks by me in Tennessee, Beach Bend, Music City, and Huntzville don't have muffler rules but if I bring my car back to Jersey I'll have my exhaust on it.

 

[QUOTE=mackeyred96;1568535664]
I can also add that Gainesville, Bradenton, Orlando, SGMP, Silver Dollar, Atlanta, Montgomery, Atmore, Emerald Coast, Mobile, Gulfport, No Problem, State Capital, Red River, Memphis, Texas Motorplex, Houston do not require mufflers, so no they are not a fact of life

 

[QUOTE=vetteman9368;1568535787]Decibel restrictions are... class racers should know that, even though I'll qualify my statement with the fact I've never been tested yet (but I run mufflers)

Ignoring what is inevitable, though.... not a good thing. Sooner or later, they will be required equipment everywhere.

Getting back to topic... if the track says they're required, they're required... put 'em on, or stay at home and bitch about it on the Internet..

 

[QUOTE=RacerX70CC;1568536317]So, what track in the south had a decibel restriction???

90% of the faster slick cars (10's or faster) running at Florida tracks run open exhaust.. Many street driven cars also run open exhaust here in Florida.. I highly doubt that we will ever have a noise limit/muffler requirement here in Florida UNLESS we are going to get a Liberal Governor
If that happens, I'll move..

 

[QUOTE=GrandSportC3;1568536658]NHRA when running a Divisional or National event... they trump the local track rules. Though as I say, I've never been tested.

Far as "never in Florida"goes... as soon as more people move closer to tracks (and they will eventually), pressure will be brought to bear to close the track in question, or to restrict operating hours, noise, etc.

The sky is NOT falling, but sticking your head in the sand and saying "never happen"... well, that's your prerogative.

 

[QUOTE=RacerX70CC;1568536972]I doubt that will ever happen in Florida.. People that buy property near the track are getting a cheap price for land BECAUSE of the track.. It's like you are moving close to a airport and then complain about the airport noise.. Ain't gonna happen in a Southern State.. Of course, noise ordinances apply but that only affects the time that the track might stay open.. Bradenton has to stop racing at midnight as Manatee country noise ordinance kicks in. Sometimes they keep racing to finish an event and just pay the fine.

 

for sale: 3" exhaust with mufflers, and turn downs, pick up only,
$1,000,000.

 

[QUOTE=GrandSportC3;1568536658] I think Florida wants the loud exhaust to chase away the PALMETTO BUGS.

 

Take lessons from a place like Englishtown. The cheap price only goes so far after awhile, at which point people try like hell to get rid of the track. Sad really, but its the way it is. Doesn't matter if the track had been there for 40 years, and then they built around it. Its the way it happens, residents get sick of the noise and want it gone.

 

[QUOTE=RacerX70CC;1568536972]Most tracks do not have a muffler rule. Now you bring up NHRA events. I really don't think you have any facts to support your opinions. If you do now would be a good time to enlighten us.

 

Name some of these tracks. We know about E-Town. A lot of tracks have been listed that don't require mufflers. Let's see your list of tracks that the residents are trying to run out of business.

 

Now, I'm not the most outspoken guy in the world, but seriously...

Granted that I'm from NYC and spend most of the year in New Jersey, would you consider North Carolina a southern state? I spend a lot of time around the Charlotte area for school among other reasons, and it's no secret that the residents of developments surrounding the Lowe's Motor Speedway complex have taken up issue with the facility (including the drag strip). An astounding number of those people who complain and get interviewed by the media have just moved there during or after the construction of the drag strip, yet they don't see just how absurd they are.

Who in their right mind doesn't check out the area before buying a freakin house? As much as I can point out just how ridiculous those people think, it's not a regional thing. I spend a lot of time in New Jersey, I spend a lot of time in North Carolina... and there's no difference at all.

Oh look, a blanket statement. Maybe I'm just more naive than I realize and North Carolina is one of those communist liberal states, but this has nothing to do with politics, and it certainly has nothing to do with north vs south. I see what you're trying to prove, and it's completely asinine in regard to what you're taking issue with.

 

I'm not saying that people aren't complaining in southern states.. I"m saying that a conservative government believes (or should at least) in individual responsibility.. If you make the decision to move near a drag strip and get the land cheap, then you have to live with the decision and the track and it's noise or move away.. Nobody was forced to move near a drag strip or airport. They got the land cheap and if they don't like it, they can move away. In the communist liberal states, the government supports this type of scumbag people and su**s their d**** and restricts other people in order foir those scumbags to be comfortable. It's like you accept a job that makes $35k for a certain type of work (and you agree to) and after 10 days of working, you want to make $70k.. If I'm the employer, I'd tell the guy that he agreed to $35k and if he doesn't like it, he is free to leave.. Same concept goes for those type of people that get cheap property near a noise source..
It is a completely different story if the track is built AFTER people bought their houses/land.. But those who bought their property near an existing or planned race track, they should go and F themselves!