NJ people...
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Melting Slicks
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NJ people...
For the people with vehicles registered in NJ, and those who have or have had off road pipes, do the cops ever give you a problem- will they actually look under the car to see if you have cats or not?
Also, what is the fine for not having cats? Someone told me $10k and they impound your car. Is that true?
Also, what is the fine for not having cats? Someone told me $10k and they impound your car. Is that true?
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Re: NJ people... (WS6 TransAm Girl)
I've heard stories where people had exhausts that were too loud and the cops did actually get down and look under their cars. Whether or not they know what they're looking at is a different story, but I imagine eventually you'll come across someone who will check. I think there is a pretty hefty fine for modifying the emissions controls on a car, but I'm not sure how much it's for, but I can't imagine them impounding your car for it since they're issuing a fine anyway. When was your car last through inspection? That's where the real problem will be.
Chris
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Chris
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Melting Slicks
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Re: NJ people... (WS6 TransAm Girl)
Erin, yes the fine is pretty stiff. I don't really know about the looking under the car thing, I know we in Newark don't really bother with that. There are other methods of getting around the ONES that look under your car. Maybe in smaller towns they might look, not sure though.
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Re: NJ people... (WS6 TransAm Girl)
From what I've read, the modern Hi-perf. cat (i.e Random Technology) is very efficient and won't cost you more than a few horsepower. At least that way you have piece of mind that you won't get hit with a fine.
I just got my 2000 GMC inspected on Tuesday and they did look underneath with a mirror presumably looking for the cat.
My .02.
[Modified by GlennS87, 12:52 PM 1/24/2002]
[Modified by GlennS87, 12:52 PM 1/24/2002]
I just got my 2000 GMC inspected on Tuesday and they did look underneath with a mirror presumably looking for the cat.
My .02.
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Re: NJ people... (WS6 TransAm Girl)
No cop will bother looking under the car. I had no cats on my Mustang for 7 years. One cop asked if I had mufflers, i said yes.
Youll benefit with hi-po cats anyway cause you'll gain back pressure for torque.
Youll benefit with hi-po cats anyway cause you'll gain back pressure for torque.
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Re: NJ people... (eamador11)
Majority of people have been telling me that backpressure on these cars is a myth. I don't think it is, but that's what everyone says. Robsvette suggested gutting out the cats, so at least I have cats... regardless of them being effective or not.
I was fine with just the ORP's until this morning when a cop standing at a construction site stopped me, my heart was in my throat, I swore he was going to say something regarding the exhaust. Ends up that I had my fog lights on, but he wanted me to turn the headlights on as well, since it was foggy. Scared the crapola out of me though....
I was fine with just the ORP's until this morning when a cop standing at a construction site stopped me, my heart was in my throat, I swore he was going to say something regarding the exhaust. Ends up that I had my fog lights on, but he wanted me to turn the headlights on as well, since it was foggy. Scared the crapola out of me though....
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Re: NJ people... (WS6 TransAm Girl)
The only time I "almost" had a problem was at a highway inspection check point, and that was with the Syclone. In place of the cat I had a Borla muffler. A "feminely challenged" woman looked under the truck with a mirror and then proceeded to try and stick her head under it and did see the muffler. Thinking it was the cat, she asked where the muffler was and I told her it came from the factory muffler delete, as the Turbo itself acted as the muffler. She was suspicious about my claim and started revving the motor when one of the cops (who was a Vette owner, was admiring the truck and talking to me about performance) told her that the truck was fine and my claim was true. So I think your best bet would be to go with high flow cats. This will also keep the noise level and cab resonance down.
HTH,
Mike :)
HTH,
Mike :)
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Re: NJ people... (WS6 TransAm Girl)
The fine is high if u get caught.I would install a gutted cat or a high performance one.I had a gutted cat on a 86 WS6 TA.,and I did loose back pressure lots of popping.Also NJ inspection will be a problem.
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Re: NJ people... (vettes)
man..threads about having no cats have been coming up here and there often lately..im ready to put my downpipe in and im scared to now!! should i really consider a hi-flo cat?..is there ne way you can get away without having cats? :confused:
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Re: NJ people... (WS6 TransAm Girl)
Get ready for trouble, I get pulled over in my 72 camaro when i pull it out of the garage. I put side pipes on it, looks great, cops give me a big problem with them. They do look but some of the newer guys get a chubby and start writing. Unfortunetly i tell them this is a 1972 car, Cats where not installed until 74-75. So i fell into the grandfather clause. So i get a ticket because my tires stick out from the well by 1/4 inch. No biggie equipment violation $40 bucks no points. I wouldn't if i was you, youre car is to new.
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Re: NJ people... (LayZ)
Get ready for trouble, I get pulled over in my 72 camaro when i pull it out of the garage. I put side pipes on it, looks great, cops give me a big problem with them. They do look but some of the newer guys get a chubby and start writing. Unfortunetly i tell them this is a 1972 car, Cats where not installed until 74-75. So i fell into the grandfather clause. So i get a ticket because my tires stick out from the well by 1/4 inch. No biggie equipment violation $40 bucks no points. I wouldn't if i was you, youre car is to new.
Interesting note on cats, if I were take one of the microturbines from one of the companies that I work with and throw em in a car, it is required by federal law to cat it. Turbines burn kerosene and they burn it VERY cleanly to the point where a cat is useless, in fact it hurts the performance of the turbine. But, thanks to the tree huggers, It needs a cat. :rolleyes:
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Re: NJ people... (WS6 TransAm Girl)
[QUOTE]Majority of people have been telling me that backpressure on these cars is a myth. [\QUOTE]
Definitley not a myth...Before I removed the cats off the Stang, the car had a nice "punch" off the line. After replacing them with off road H-pipe, there was not much of a punch anymore but it sounded great. I only felt the difference above 65mph.
I think ithe concept would applies on all cars. Thats why im leaving my cats on the Vette since I wont gain anything by bypassing it.
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Definitley not a myth...Before I removed the cats off the Stang, the car had a nice "punch" off the line. After replacing them with off road H-pipe, there was not much of a punch anymore but it sounded great. I only felt the difference above 65mph.
I think ithe concept would applies on all cars. Thats why im leaving my cats on the Vette since I wont gain anything by bypassing it.
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Re: NJ people... (SlowSupra)
"dope" ok....Whatever. <shrug>
Erin Like the others have said the High flow cats are probably the way to go, but years ago I had the cats removed on a Mustang I owned... all was good untill I got nailed in a roadside inspection checkpoint (yeah the actually perform inspections on the side of the road) and the looked under my car. They gave me a ticket for some nominal amount (no where near 10k). I paid the ticket but I still had to go through a state inspection station to clear the failure. (I forget why exactly - it might have been because it was equiptment related) A buddy of mine welded on Cat covers right over the straight pipe, put a couple of u clamps on either side and viola you couldnt tell. The car passed the sniffer and when the looked underneeth they saw cats. :yesnod:
It was alot to go through, If I had to do it over I would have went with one of the new low restriction cats and been legal. :D
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Erin Like the others have said the High flow cats are probably the way to go, but years ago I had the cats removed on a Mustang I owned... all was good untill I got nailed in a roadside inspection checkpoint (yeah the actually perform inspections on the side of the road) and the looked under my car. They gave me a ticket for some nominal amount (no where near 10k). I paid the ticket but I still had to go through a state inspection station to clear the failure. (I forget why exactly - it might have been because it was equiptment related) A buddy of mine welded on Cat covers right over the straight pipe, put a couple of u clamps on either side and viola you couldnt tell. The car passed the sniffer and when the looked underneeth they saw cats. :yesnod:
It was alot to go through, If I had to do it over I would have went with one of the new low restriction cats and been legal. :D
My 2c... :D :cheers: :cool:
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Re: NJ people... (Mike69)
I've been thru these roadside inspections(not in UPS trucks, we police ourselves) in a dump truck. They almost impounded the vehicle for everything you could think of, but the troopers knew the vehicle wasn't owned by me, wrote a lot of tickets to the owner and sent me on my way.
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Re: NJ people... (Mike69)
ok..wuts the whatever and the shrug for Mike69?
Ne ways..i just got pulled over!! i didnt even have my V1 on and he claims that i was gonig 70 but i know i was gonig 60 cuz i was still in 2nd gear..but ne ways...i got a ticket for obstruction of view(radar on the windshield) at least i got a break..ne body know how much this is?
Mark,I know the V1 is legal in jerzy..u think if i go to court i dont even have to pay the fines? if its not too much of a hassle i would go through it and save me some money!
Ne ways..i just got pulled over!! i didnt even have my V1 on and he claims that i was gonig 70 but i know i was gonig 60 cuz i was still in 2nd gear..but ne ways...i got a ticket for obstruction of view(radar on the windshield) at least i got a break..ne body know how much this is?
Mark,I know the V1 is legal in jerzy..u think if i go to court i dont even have to pay the fines? if its not too much of a hassle i would go through it and save me some money!
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Re: NJ people... (SlowSupra)
ok..wuts the whatever and the shrug for Mike69?
That's just stupid fresh
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Re: NJ people... (Mr Mojo)
ok..wuts the whatever and the shrug for Mike69?
I think for usung a word like "dope"
That's just stupid fresh
I think for usung a word like "dope"
That's just stupid fresh
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