Why would anyone get this car?
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Melting Slicks
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Why would anyone get this car?
The 2010 Hennessey Camaro was challenged by the 2009 ZR1 in the latest Road & Track:
The ZR1 destroyed it in every aspect, including price.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/ca...-hpe700-camaro
Why would anyone buy a more expensive car (Camaro), that is slower, doesn't handle as well, doesn't stop as well, gets worse gas mileage, doesn't MPH as high, etc?
I just don't get the whole Camaro thing?!?!?!
Here is the comparison data:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...ison-Chart.pdf
The ZR1 destroyed it in every aspect, including price.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/ca...-hpe700-camaro
Why would anyone buy a more expensive car (Camaro), that is slower, doesn't handle as well, doesn't stop as well, gets worse gas mileage, doesn't MPH as high, etc?
I just don't get the whole Camaro thing?!?!?!
Here is the comparison data:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...ison-Chart.pdf
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725 horsepower, $125,000...all for 4.1 sec 0-60 ?
When Camaro owners see that, they are going to think they got ripped off by Hennessey worse than the Viper owners got ripped.....
A bone stock LS3 will hit 0-60 in 4.1 seconds
http://www.corvetteblog.com/archives...ust-48885.html
When Camaro owners see that, they are going to think they got ripped off by Hennessey worse than the Viper owners got ripped.....
A bone stock LS3 will hit 0-60 in 4.1 seconds
http://www.corvetteblog.com/archives...ust-48885.html
Last edited by cell6ida; 03-02-2010 at 02:06 AM.
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Safety Car
i like the new camaro except for the rear end look. I hope they rethink that. Its really boring to follow (not that i would ever be behind one tho)
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I like the look of the new camaro but why would anyone buy a hennessey one is beyond me other than the name. but if I had that kind of money I would have the ZR1.
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The 2010 Hennessey Camaro was challenged by the 2009 ZR1 in the latest Road & Track:
The ZR1 destroyed it in every aspect, including price.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/ca...-hpe700-camaro
Why would anyone buy a more expensive car (Camaro), that is slower, doesn't handle as well, doesn't stop as well, gets worse gas mileage, doesn't MPH as high, etc?
I just don't get the whole Camaro thing?!?!?!
The ZR1 destroyed it in every aspect, including price.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/ca...-hpe700-camaro
Why would anyone buy a more expensive car (Camaro), that is slower, doesn't handle as well, doesn't stop as well, gets worse gas mileage, doesn't MPH as high, etc?
I just don't get the whole Camaro thing?!?!?!
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Burning Brakes
#10
Melting Slicks
Probably because they already have a ZR1 and some other cars, and want the baddest Camaro in town too. But they don't have the skill or connections to build it themselves or have a good local tuner build it.
-TJ
-TJ
#12
Melting Slicks
...maybe they like that 1965 dodge dart dashboard (instrument panel) in the new Camaro?!? Actually, I do like the small engine gauges on the console...very 1969ish
#13
Melting Slicks
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Putting in a high HP engine into a car is something most backyard mechanics can do. It takes engineering to design a well-built car.
#14
Burning Brakes
That is the problem with those type of cars. Dropping in a powerful motor into a car without addressing traction, handling, braking, power/weight ratio, overall design, strength of components, etc., is POOR ENGINEERING.
Putting in a high HP engine into a car is something most backyard mechanics can do. It takes engineering to design a well-built car.
Putting in a high HP engine into a car is something most backyard mechanics can do. It takes engineering to design a well-built car.
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Read the article a bit further and you will see that our LS9 Camaro run almost 129 mph in the 1/4 mile on drag radials. From a roll this car is faster than a stock ZR1 and it weighs about 700 lbs more.
We have sold nearly the entire run of 24 cars.
We have sold nearly the entire run of 24 cars.
#16
Melting Slicks
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I did read the entire article. The article stated that even with the improved & stronger clutch and street-legal Nitto drag radials fitted to the car, the Hennessey Camaro posted an 11.7 at 128.6 mph.
The ZR1 in the quarter-mile flashes by in just 11.2 at 130.5 mph.
The ZR1 beats the HPE by 1/2 second.
The ZR1 can attain a 1.10g in lateral acceleration. The HPE700 Camaro attains a 0.92g
The ZR1 gets a braking performance from 60-0MPH in 106 feet while the HPE700 Camaro is in 116 feet.
As I was pointing out, the ZR1 vs. HPE700 Camaro:
ZR1 WINS in all categories:
*ZR1 is faster
*ZR1 has better braking
*ZR1 accelerates faster
*ZR1 handles better
*ZR1 gets better MPG
*ZR1 costs less
*ZR1 gets a higher top speed
*ZR1 comes with a 5 year/100,000 mile warranty
*ZR1 costs $30K less than the HPE Camaro
OK?!?
Last edited by LBear; 03-08-2010 at 03:04 AM.
#17
Burning Brakes
129 in the 1/4 is strong..... Correct me if im wrong but that seems like the camaro is catching the zr1. Id be interested to see maybe a 150mph comparo or even higher?
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Team Owner
Considering the barndoor aerodynamics, I wouldn't count on the Camaro catching the ZR-1 at high speed, not with a mere 725 HP at least.
Last edited by BoostManiac; 03-08-2010 at 12:05 PM.
#19
Melting Slicks
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A 2010 Camaro SS = $30K
A 2010 HPE700 Camaro = $130K+
As I said, sticking a high-HP motor into a Camaro does not make the HPE Camaro better than a ZR1. In fact, the ZR1 destroys the HPE Camaro in all areas and even costs less. Plus, GM gives me a 6 year/100,000 mile warranty on the powertrain.
A $100,000 for an engine upgrade, cosmetic and some brake upgrades?
Last edited by LBear; 03-08-2010 at 12:33 PM.
#20
Race Director
One thing is for certain, if you made Jay Leno's salary (and already have a ZR1), that $130K is pocket change.
The ZR1 destroys any Aston Martin, but plenty of rich folks buy them. Why not attack those people as well?
My point is that Hennessey found a market and made some good money. That's business, folks!
The ZR1 destroys any Aston Martin, but plenty of rich folks buy them. Why not attack those people as well?
My point is that Hennessey found a market and made some good money. That's business, folks!