Hey guys,need help bad just installed a no hit 68 front clip on my 69, the core support I removed from the 68 was a bit different from my 69 in the way it mounted, and the nose support went from the core support to the header bar.when I move the crossmember up to set the front clip I cannot mount the front bumper because the crossmember pushes the center bumper support up into the nose support.where there ever shims under the core support?or a type of bushing?

 

Yes GM does use some shims in this area. between the core support and the front crossmember. I have seen them...but generally only one or two if that on each side.

I just fought with one some time ago. It has a lot to do with the brackets and crossmember mounting coming off of your frame. Just a little bit of adjustment there (changing the angle of the outer mounting brackets)..will drastically change the way that the center bumper brace fits when it is attached to the front crossmember.

BUT...BE AWARE!!!! Putting too much of an angle on the outer side mounting plates ( that the front crossmember attaches to) can drastically effect on how the outer mounting brackets for your front bumper fit to this area on the frame. You will see what I mean when you go to fit them up.

Did you car take a serious front end hit??? And if so...if it damaged this front crossmember...where the center bumper brace is mounted...you may have damaged areas on the frame where the side mounting brackets for the front crossmember are located.

"DUB"

 

I finally get to speak to a vette body guy that knows his stuff,yes I have been reading some of your posts and you sound quite knowledgable.this is a 69 that had a hard life at some point it had been a race car then a few bubbas had owned it.you can see some of things I have done on http://photobucket.com/bertpayne. I cant post pics photobucket wont upload.I bought this car when market was high so I spent most my cash and they got me good so I am trying to do most of this stuff myself ie birdcage doors front clip floors all new ball joints bushings and body off.69 car,68 E front clip 72 hood and headlights 1980 doors this car took a hit left front door jam,right rear quarter and right front corner original front clip was trash

 

If you are trying to use that 68 support, it aint going to work. Much different in the way its mounted.

 

no,I am using the 69 support

 

a few pics

 

I found that the fire wall is 3/8 forward on drivers side at the drip edge but is tight to the cage COULD this be from sitting with bad mounts for years? THIS IS THE QUESTION

 

How did you determine this?
Wasn't the car hit at the hinge post area in the past???

"DUB"

 

yes,but when I built the birdcage I measured everything 2-3 times before tacking things in place and I put all rivets back in the same holes where the firewall rivets to cage the bottom of windshield frame was not rusted .when I measure from windshield to drip edge on the bottom corners it comes up 3/8 difference which is the same difference I have for wiper door

 

TO THE TOP OF THE LIST! I have seen this on c3 general hundreds of times over the past two years (ttt)

 

???? I don't do "text speak" very well. Spell it out in English.

"DUB"

 

you have not seen this on the FORUM before? It could also mean still waiting for an answer.part of this forum is for other members to get good information from more experienced members not attitude.iI If you do not know the answer or have a good suggestion then do not answer the post.Whats next a spelling Bee?

 

Dub,
ttt = to the top

 

A simple answer would have done you GREAT service...instead of coming back at me with this ATTITUDE.

YES...I have seen it on the forum before...but I was just asking.
AND ...NO a "spelling bee" is NOT next.

And I gave you advice for your shim issue...BUT more than likely knowing what you did wrong when re-assembling this Corvette....or what you forgot to do.....I will let you figure it out...just like I have done in the past when the Corvette Forum was not around.

AS for ATTITUDE...I do not have an ATTITUDE...but it seems that you are "short fused" right now because you are in "uncharted territory" and actually need someone to help you out. And I was willing to help you out....but...YOU screwed that all up for yourself.

For what it is worth...when dealing with people who are only trying to HELP you out...NEVER let your EMOTIONS override your INTELLECT. Because when you communicate with harsh emotions...people loose interest....especially if you make them feel attacked or their advice, suggestions or previous experiences in this area will not be appreciated.

Thanks...that is all I was asking for.

"DUB"

 

thats funny,I did not see anything implying a question however I did pick up that you were insinuating that I was a 12 year old text messaging that did not know how to speak proper English.And I do not believe that I asked for your help in particular.I also do not believe that you are the only person on this forum that knows all about the c3 body!

 

MY fault...I though you would have figured out that the "????" I wrote IMPLIED a question of what "ttt" meant....seeing how I quoted your post of "ttt's" But I did write "Spell it out in English"...and you seemed to not get that. And if you took it that I was insinuating that you were a 12 year old...then you HIGHLY MISTAKEN and are so far from the truth. I don"t know you from "Adam"...and I am glad I don't know you. But the more and more you respond to these posts like you are responding to them...I am getting a pretty good idea of what type of person you really are. And I can see how you process what you read being in the state of mind you are currently in at this time...because I have been there before myself.

You are right...I am not the ONLY person on the forum who knows C3 Corvettes.

HONESTLY and SINCERE...I wish you the best of luck to repairing your problem.

I will keep an eye on this post and wait to see if you get a reply to you problem....seeing how I am not the only one here on the forum...who knows C3 Corvettes...I am sure that you will get a flood of responses.

PEACE
"DUB"

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69ragvette

ttt
???? I don't do "text speak" very well. Spell it out in English.


WTF That's really the only "text speak" you need to know. Especially in this case. I am amazed the time you spend helping people here on the forum. Never once have I seen you promote yourself. I have seen several times that the OP doesn't like hearing the bitter truth and looks for someone who is going to tell them what they want to hear. Please keep posting your replies. I have learned more from your post than any of the books I've ever read.

 

I dont need anybody to tell me what I want to hear! It was a simple question COULD THE PROBLEM BE CAUSED BY THE CAR SETTING FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WITH BAD MOUNTS? I have been on this forum for a good period of time and never had such a problem getting an answer to a simple question.I have restored several cars just not a c3 but I have done quite a bit without visiting this section and will continue to do so.I dont need someone to hold my hand every step of the way .

 

Well as far as could your car take a set with bad mounts, I say yes and that you could and can move it a lot by shimming the mounts now and have it move alot esp. that it is a vert. Now can you really move it enough for your problem, you only can try it and see. Putting parts on the car now will help you see what is needed then remove them to finish the body.

 

flyinfree,
I think your comment was directed at me...so I think THANKS are in order....and I will keep helpiing those whose who ask for help.

69ragvette,
In post #3...you replied with some class and appreciation.....Then you basically bite my head off....when all I asked was a simple question....and I thought that I would ask you...even though I have seen "ttt" on the forum in the past and have never asked. I see that me asking you was a BIG MISTAKE. I thought we had a good dialogue going...seeing how "wombvette" was the only other member offering advice/suggestions/tech knowledge....I guess I was wrong there also.

I feel that adding fuel to this "fire" is quite counter-productive. So I will take the "high-road" and show you that you really don't need someone "holding your hand" as you put it...because you know what you were/are doing...and you knew when to stop when you noticed a problem. But chose to keep going.

To answer your question:
No..the chances that bad body mounts caused this problem is highly unlikely....with the 3/8" difference you are encountering. By looking at ALL of the photo's on the site you posted....and all the work that was performed. I truely feel I know where you problem more than likely began....or where "something" was not checked very carefully before it was installed.

"DUB"