Interesting that the ratt-man voted for highest mph on timeslip=fastest car.
Hmmnnn...
Gary, maybe you can put in a big cam and spin down 1/2 the quarter mile and run 10.5@141 and take his title of fastest n/a c6Z06.

 

So if Kyle goes 8.8 @ 158.75mph he still doesn't get the title of fastest 6speed vette because Greg trapped 159mph on 1 odd pass in which he probably ran a mid-high 9 on?

I pose this question to the 8 guys that voted for mph.

That would be a bloody shame.

 

Intentionally Zig Zag down the track and you'll pick up mph.

 

not sure if you actually read what i typed but i was agreeing. . . .

and as far as MPH on a slip goes what relavence does it have besides tuning? dont you think it would be called a MPH slip vs a TIME SLIP? its in regards to the time it takes you to complete a 1/4 mile.

 

Has to be ET, MPH can be manipulated by tire spin.

 

Obviously you would cover more distance using that method,thus making for a slightly better MPH. However, if you got a little carried away with the zig zag then kissing the wall could hurt...reducing your speed.

 

 

It all about the English language and how we define words or how we use the wrong words as generic terms and then they get accepted as normal terms and vice versa.. Quicker and faster are 2 different words with different meanings which can vary on how the word is used and the context of how and where the words are being used... Quickest and fastest can also be used together just as slowest and fastest.. You might have the slowest car but the fastest one at the same time For example a 1/4 mile run with a 19 second et and an trap speed of 178mph.. Or you could have the quickest slowest car. 7 second 1/4 mile time at 78mph Or you could have quickest fastest baddest ever car,, 4 seconds at 400 mph then blows the engine, which makes it the quickest fastest baddest or worst. but then baddest can mean the best or fastest but bad means bad in my book or it could mean the meanest car too. baddest means the engine went bad and blew up.. so it was a bad motor. but bad could mean good to some else..

 

Actually mph has been my friend while running the 11.00 index at Milan. As we all know ET is the determining factor in winning a 1320' drag race. However,I set up (detuned) my car to run as close to 11.00 as possible,this was also accomplished by soft launches and top end blasts. The guys I run against all have purpose built strip cars,so a hard launch is the norm for them (their 1.3x vs my 1.6x). Whereas their trap speeds are 120/123 mph vs my 133/134 mph trap speeds. So by the 1/8 mile they always had the lead,but several times the driver (bracket racer mentality) would think that the race was over and just past the 1000' mark he would start playing the lift and stab game,so by the time he realized that I was much faster (approx. 12 mph) he was already toast. Needless to say after the first three events the word got around that I run ***** out to the traps with a 11.0x time consistently...there wasn't a whole lot of game playing thereafter.

That's my story,and yes fast trap speeds are a good thing for me.

 

My post wasn't directed to you
But the relevance would be 1/4 isn't the only type on straight line performance these days, look at the Texas Mile for example. 1/4-3/4mile events an 60-160 challenges, yet they all still may tune on the 1/4 mile track. Different strokes for different folks

 

What about a road course race track?... How would a 3000 horsepower nitro methane dragster do against a stock Z06? or even a mini cooper for that matter

 

You do not have to worry, your car does not zig or zag thankfully.

 

My 2nd cousin owns Beaver Springs Dragway and has a 100 mph club for 1/8 & 1/4 mile. He told me guys that are close to the number swerve back and forth down the track to gain mph, and it works.

Not a good idea for us, but maybe Fartpipe could try it.

 

thats what the 8 sec cars do without trying to do it

 

Kinda like this?

 

lowest ET i feel since it got to the end of the track the fastest

 

 

it might be just me, but when someone ask me how fast do i go in the 1/4, i will answer then with the mph

 

Dave's whose car is this, and details on the mods, please? Was that an 8.85 at 15xmph? I would like to add this as my only 8sec C5 video to my Video Gallery on my site. Would that be OK?


By the way, I voted ET. All of the fast lists I have been a part of go strictly by the ET. That way we can gauge the driver as well as the car. How many times have we seen the 12 sec ET with a 13xmph? It gives good example of what power the car has, and it also shows that the combo is not hooking up or the driver needs some mods. It just doesn't seem right for MPH to be the winner? Might as well just use our dyno slips and save the time going to the track, if MPH/power is the deciding factor, LOL.
Robert

 

Mitch I respect your opinion and it's not just you.
About 18% of the people who voted share your opinion. I would really like to get 100 votes at least.
And Mitch, for what it's worth your opinion should hold alot of weight because you have been in this sport for most of your life I presume.
I'm just a new guy to this sport and do it as a hobby. I'm trying to understand why people feel the way they do.
I know it's a matter of semantics but I have a hard time giving the title of "fastest" to a car with a cr*ppy ET.
IMO it takes away from the cars who actually achieved the goal of 1/4 mile racing.
I stated my argument in the inital post on why MPH is not necessarily a great indication or fair assesment of how fast a car is; which I'm sure many did not read.

I've heard your statement above uttered by many people with alot of experience in drag racing. Then I hear people say ET should be the only measure, hence the fabrication of these threads and the poll.

If the goal was to be the fastest car on a 1/4 mile record list and MPH was the accepted measuring stick, then building an n/a car like yours and mine would but ignorant.

But I completely understand that there's so much more to drag racing than holding a "fastest" mph or et record. That's why we see all types of setup and most of the real true drag racers in competition likely care very little about being on top of the record books.