Sorry to hear of your troubles Pitt and always would like to help a fellow 6-speeder out(only reason I voted for paint it black). I prefer the level 2 kevlar for guys under 525rwhp who drag race (which I believe you fall into that category) because it doesn't have as high a coeffiecient of grip as the 3/4 ceramic, lessening how hard it hits on high rpm launches. Let me know if you have any questions, Chris

 

Thx.

I don't launch at hight rpm anymore with this stroker. 4200 rpm, slipping and feeding it throttle at the same time will give me high 1.4 sixty foot times on a good track.

Do you still think Level 2 kevlar for me ?

Pitt

 

I'm holding off on my vote to see if Pit-man is getting back into this.

NOT that i think it matters - wasn't voting for Pit!

Hmmmm, which one to choose?

 

Your 1.4s attest you can work a clutch properly and the fact that you leave lower a softer hitting clutch will keep you from potentially bogging...as long as you're not planning on spraying to beat FP, I think you'll be fine with a level 2. I know it sounds weak, but we can refer to it as a level X if it makes ya feel better

 

whats the deal with a few monsters welding themselves together? jOn on here had that problem and I was reading of another monster doing that the other day...is it a certain level with a certain friction material thats causing this?

 

I sure would like to hear from some Monster forum drivers cutting low sixtys. I don't need another failure...this is getting old

 

Chris, that does sound weak.

I might spray next year if I can get this thing to a 10.5 et
Everyone wants to run a 9 second car, except 7-8 second dudes

 

Actually the Level II seems to be a over kill for Pittmans car. Its only a mid 11second car. Stock clutch will be fine. No reason for a upgrade

However my car is gonna need something healthy!!!! Mid 10's isnt a walk in the park but it does WALK PITTMAN!

 

Aftermarket Clutch Hater.

 

 

PITT,any idea of what your going to be doing about the clutch in the near future? I sure hope that you make it to MIR and and slam it up FP's azz...hell everyone else in Jersey and Pennsylvania has already had a crack at it...be careful and don't fall in...ooh some stank stuff there.

 

Not sure yet. My buddy's lift won't be open till next week and I have to make a decision on a clutch. I tested the clutch travel today, full release is about half way and you have to push in an additional 4+ inches till it will quit creeping forward. The front disk is obviously riding on the flywheel, just like it was shimmed wrong, but I was there an saw the measurements take place. They were checked 3-4 times.

 

why wouldnt I be? Do I wanna see people tell pitt yet again that if he buys this $2000 hit or miss twin disk clutch that he will run good and it will last and then burn through it in 500 miles because of some stack height issue that was known yet still sold having customers measure themselves and the clutch never fully engaged....even on the cheap end of clutches do I wanna see pitt buy a cheaper single disk and he goes to do a 4000rpm slip and it welds itself together...no....I dont think this guy would bite on another mcleod or RPS after the 2 of each he's already went through...look at luweegy on here he had the bc2 burnt through one or 2 rob from RPS right there in his thread said he'd take care of it since it was a known issue...yet again luweegy got burned and RSI helped him out and now runs a tripple disk....i personally have never had a issue with any spec i've had...they held great...the twin i had was tough to drive but never slipped and still holding great today...the new owner still has it and broke that rpm stage 3 diff i had in the car...thats the thing with that clutch it was on off and if you werent gentile on the left foot thats what happened it would break your parts



that is why i'm a aftermarket clutch hater he's better off running a stock clutch which at least functions correctly that he might have the occasional stickey pedal if he races it...the LS9 setup would be right up pitts alley

ps there is no punctuation or spell check in all of the above i typed it fast right before work...gotta go guys another beautiful morning here in the land of the rising sun

 

I do not want Pitt to have any clutch problems either. You seem to trash many aftermarket clutches a lot. I can attest that we put on over 130 passes on the BC2 without a problem. Who says that these clutches are hit or miss? Can you tell that from a few posts? How about customer service? Rob Smith did say that he would take care of clutch that had a stack height problem. I do not recall anywhere that Luweegy's clutch was measured to verify if that were the problem. Here's a little more info.

This is Rob Smith the president of RPS and I am happy to answer any questions anyone has. Concerning a possible stack hieght problem with our BC2 clutches there where a very small number of clutches (less than 10) that left our plant with a finger height over 3.2". As I'm sure you know, when the finger hieght is too high the throwout bearing bottoms out and the clutch will slip at much lower than advertised power levels. Usually this problem happens within the first 2,000 miles.
The reason we felt it was OK to send those few clutches out is because the couple of new stock factory clutches we measured came in at 3.1" and we felt that an extra .100" was a safe margin. After time has passed we have talked to Reese at MTI and he informed us that he has measured as much as .060" difference from the crank surface to the TOB mounting surface from car to car. We now know that if we send a clutch that is higher than 3.2" and the car happens to be "short" by .060" than it is possible to bottom out the TOB.
Since late last year we have only sent out clutches that are below 3.0" just to make sure there is plenty of room.
WOW. Tolerances varied. I'm sure GM could not let anything like that happen.



If the LS7 clutch was so great, why is there an LS9 clutch? I believe my first pass ever on my C6Z was in the 17.x range. Why? The LS7 clutch is JUNK. Perhaps both robz and I could be wrong about that.
As for recommending a clutch to Pitt, did you see any of us tout an RPS? Although we did not, are you saying we are not qualified? How many people do you know that routinely cut 1.4x sixties let alone low 1.4x sixties? Give us any clutch and I'm sure we can destroy it in a few passes.

 

Pitt,
Sorry to hear about the problems. Whatever clutch you decide on, I hope that it performs flawlessly. We want you to make it up this way so we can finally meet and share some good times which should include a little racing.

 

Thx Gary.
I had to laugh at the 'little racing" because thats about what I get per clutch (ain't funny)

If I have a stroke of luck I might make it. Lack of lift and lack of clutch decision is holding me back right now. I did play with it today, it is functional but just not right. One more track trip will probably burn it flat and weld it to my flywheel. Hmmmmm....Maybe I should go back to an aluminum flywheel, it wouldn't stick...

The real shame is, this is my first clutch that shifted like glass. The other 3 had high rpm shifting troubles. Now I know my tranny was not the problem in the past.

 

TICK master cylinder
New Slave
New pilot bearing
New monster single disc from Pre-Z06-he'll have it to you by friday and in this weekend!!!! COME ON PITT!!! Make it happen!

Do this and dont look back!

 

I needed to before while conversing with Kurt. I've broken my share of parts also. At MIR 1, I destroyed a rear. I walked away for about an hour just to calm down. I did not blame the parts or the guy who built the rear. I blamed myself. Yes, I was extremely upset but I did not let it stop us from reaching our goal. Tommy and I put the 3.42s back in and ended last season at the Corvette Challenge in stellar fashion. RPM provided a set of well made 4.10s and we hit our goal at MIR's December rental. Things do happen when we race. Some are our fault while others are not. It is discouraging and costly. (I wish I had a bottomless wallet.) I constantly see what others have put up with. (ie. Things that are direct bolt in that don't. Companies with poor customer service departments. I can go on and on.) We must realize that this automotive world is far from perfect, but we cannot let it deter us from reaching our goals. I do not know if I buy into the luck stuff, but I do believe in miracles large and small.
And Kurt, thanks for protecting all of us.

 

 

Are you going to be pulling your car apart? I have to do the same to mine. I'll come by and help if I'm around. Never took this half of the car apart so I got some stuff to learn. I'll be in FL for good in 2 weeks. The academy will have me Mon-Thurs but Fri-Sun I can help.