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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
While I respect Bill's experience in every way, I can default to my own military, commercial aircraft, and automotive industry design/test experience that a inline connection can be just as reliable as an soldered connection.
Sure they can be, but you said it yourself.

The splice packs used on C5s are not sealed at all, which makes them subject to corrosion. The exposed grounds are not covered or sealed either. It's a poor design, but it is what it is.
All those harnesses, splice packs, pig tails, etc. are unsealed, unhardened, and not protected from corrosion in anyway. So if I see an opportunity to eliminate/minimize their use, then I will take it. I can make a clean solder joint, paint it with liquid tape, and never worry about it again.

And how is that? Do you have an injection mold in your garage? I don't. What do you propose, just using a big glob of RTV on the area you cut off with the dremel? Yeah, that would look the same
I would propose cutting the female connector out of the original sender, finding the interior terminals, soldering new leads to them, then covering the solder joints with liquid tape. If you go to ...

http://www.rockauto.com and look at part S619

I have a fair degree of confidence that I could fabricate something of comparable quality. No, it would not look perfect, but neither does that thing. It would last just as well though, and it's not in a place where it can be seen anyway.

Just being specific here. People use these threads as guides for maintence, and someone will put sealant over sealant, not knowing better. I have not seen a factory replacement that did not have sealant on the threads yet.
No problem, I saw some pictures of replacements that had clean threads.

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by corvettebob1
I can't help but wonder with all the replacement failures, is everyone using the proper J tool to install the new sender or just a socket that happens to appear to fit?
I bought a specific "Oil Pressure Sender Socket" at Advance Auto. I think it was ~$10.
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Originally Posted by wcsinx
Sure they can be, but you said it yourself.



All those harnesses, splice packs, pig tails, etc. are unsealed, unhardened, and not protected from corrosion in anyway. So if I see an opportunity to eliminate/minimize their use, then I will take it. I can make a clean solder joint, paint it with liquid tape, and never worry about it again.



I would propose cutting the female connector out of the original sender, finding the interior terminals, soldering new leads to them, then covering the solder joints with liquid tape. If you go to ...

http://www.rockauto.com and look at part S619

I have a fair degree of confidence that I could fabricate something of comparable quality. No, it would not look perfect, but neither does that thing. It would last just as well though, and it's not in a place where it can be seen anyway.



No problem, I saw some pictures of replacements that had clean threads.
I guess it takes all kinds.... Rock on brother......
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
I guess it takes all kinds.... Rock on brother......
Well now my chit might not look as good as your avatar, but I can sure as hell keep 'em running.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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at what milege do most of the originals fail? Was thinking that if mine fails (now have 43k) I'd just replace with another GM one - likely won't have the car that long again??
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by redrckt97
at what milege do most of the originals fail? Was thinking that if mine fails (now have 43k) I'd just replace with another GM one - likely won't have the car that long again??
Mine bit it at 71k. From what I've heard that's about par for the course. I don't think there's anything wrong the GM piece other than its placement. A Chebby dealer might bend you over on the price though.

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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Here's the template I promised some folks, maybe others can use it too.



To use this: Cut along the line that says "align with weatherstrip edge" all the way left to right. Then sort of massage the paper in around the wiper trough, lining the small hole up with the center clip hole on the firewall (where you took the plastic pop rivet out).

I used a thin wall Sears deep 6 point 1/2 inch drive socket 1 1/16" (part number 50756) and it dropped right down in the hole I cut (used a hole saw from a door lock set I had lying around).

Hope that helps. I used a 45 degree bent long nose pliers to pop the electrical clip off. No problems of yet, replaced it in Dec. 08.

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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
The service manual only calls for sealant on the sensor if you are reinstalling the OLD sensor....read again below....

Hi everyone, I hate to but into a conversation but i'd like to clerify a few things that read in this group. First i wanna say i work on GM electronics on a daily basis and as far as the redish brown stuff on the sensor thread is not a sealant but it is rather an anti- goulding compound because most sensors are used in different applications and mount into different metals so a sealant should be used anyway. Now, the different pigtails used in any type electrical system has been found that the more connections you have in a system is just one more place to have a problem and it is recommended to solder and heatshrink any new connections that is added to any system.... Take this info for what it is worth to you, i only came here to find a fix for my 130 psi oil presure problem and i did find my answer and for that i thank each and all of you.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
The service manual only calls for sealant on the sensor if you are reinstalling the OLD sensor....read again below....

Hi everyone, I hate to but into a conversation but i'd like to clerify a few things that read in this group. First i wanna say i work on GM electronics on a daily basis and as far as the redish brown stuff on the sensor thread is not a sealant but it is rather an anti- goulding compound because most sensors are used in different applications and mount into different metals so a sealant should be used anyway. Now, the different pigtails used in any type electrical system has been found that the more connections you have in a system is just one more place to have a problem and it is recommended to solder and heatshrink any new connections that is added to any system.... Take this info for what it is worth to you, i only came here to find a fix for my 130 psi oil presure problem and i did find my answer and for that i thank each and all of you.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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My 2-cents worth:

My Factory GM sensor died at 69K miles. I am currently debating if a buy the relocation kit or just cut the hole and figure out a way to seal it once it has been cut. I need to pull the cowl cover and really look at it.

I agree that I would prefer to have a pigtail with Delphi Weatherpak connectors on each end. Terminal Supply (www.terminalsupply.com) is my local store that sells all the Delphi connectors. If I go this route, I'll post what their part number and price is for these connectors.

Cheers!
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Hey all, my last OPS lasted almost 5 months, it was the aluminum piece. Rather than go through the remove the manifold bit I opted to relocate using the DPE kit. I also cut the hole in the plastic undertray to get at the offending unit. It was a bit of work seeing as how it's so far away for my short little legs to reach over and see what I was doing but, was well worth it IMO. Somehow I lost the fitting that went into the block and couldn't find it anywhere, it's somewhere in my garage and I will find it I'm certain, but, called Perry at DPE and he zipped a new fitting to me quickly, also very nice guy. Now, I've got a relocated OPS to a place I can get to in 5 minutes or less, and vast knowledge of how to use tools from my Dad dating back some 75 years. I don't know what the name of the tool I used to reach down into that dark place to connect the stainless line with the AN fitting to the brass unit in the block, but, without it I would have had to remove the manifold. I'm pleased and thanks to this Forum have saved much money and learned so much about my toy. Thanks again all !
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