"C6 from 2005-2010 navigation radio clock stops after battery disconnect
2019 Z06 2LZ A8 Coupe
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If GM thinks a dangerous problem like the gas leak issue is only worth fixing for cars no more than 10 year old, I doubt this clock issue will ever see a fix. GM has not even offered updated map DVDs since 2016 for these units.
Maybe one day iDatalink will build an interface for our cars so we can replace the factory head unit with an aftermarket unit and keep the navigation functionality of the heads-up display.
https://maestro.idatalink.com/contact
Maybe one day iDatalink will build an interface for our cars so we can replace the factory head unit with an aftermarket unit and keep the navigation functionality of the heads-up display.
https://maestro.idatalink.com/contact
Racer
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If GM thinks a dangerous problem like the gas leak issue is only worth fixing for cars no more than 10 year old, I doubt this clock issue will ever see a fix. GM has not even offered updated map DVDs since 2016 for these units.
Maybe one day iDatalink will build an interface for our cars so we can replace the factory head unit with an aftermarket unit and keep the navigation functionality of the heads-up display.
https://maestro.idatalink.com/contact
Maybe one day iDatalink will build an interface for our cars so we can replace the factory head unit with an aftermarket unit and keep the navigation functionality of the heads-up display.
https://maestro.idatalink.com/contact
As far as GM...I think all their time and efforts concerning Corvettes are centered around the release of the C8. Looks like a combination Ferrari and Lambo. I think the C6 Nav / Clock problem is not a priority for them. They are now thinking about sales of the new Vette...profit, profit, profit!
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Easy fix for your clock problem ... and the fix only costs $2.89
Sticks on to your dash with double sided tape . . .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-thin-...-/183559573538
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Or, go get one of these Kenwood radios .... The built-in Garmin nav and the clock in these radios work great !
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Sticks on to your dash with double sided tape . . .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-thin-...-/183559573538
________________________________________ __________________________
Or, go get one of these Kenwood radios .... The built-in Garmin nav and the clock in these radios work great !
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Instructor
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hello every one !
I spent an hour reading this thread....after i started a thread thinking i was the fist one having this issue... So it happened to me too after disconnecting the battery too.
Hope they find a way to fix this...soon
cheers
Marc
I spent an hour reading this thread....after i started a thread thinking i was the fist one having this issue... So it happened to me too after disconnecting the battery too.
Hope they find a way to fix this...soon
cheers
Marc
Racer
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Easy fix for your clock problem ... and the fix only costs $2.89
Sticks on to your dash with double sided tape . . .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-thin-...-/183559573538
________________________________________ __________________________
Or, go get one of these Kenwood radios .... The built-in Garmin nav and the clock in these radios work great !
Sticks on to your dash with double sided tape . . .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-thin-...-/183559573538
________________________________________ __________________________
Or, go get one of these Kenwood radios .... The built-in Garmin nav and the clock in these radios work great !
Le Mans Master
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From post 1032
A suggestion then: Here is a very recent quote by GM president Mark Reuss on the launch of the C8. "What we don’t want to do is ever walk away from our customer base,”
That suggestion above seems likes the best option at the moment.
A letter/ email campaign to have Mark advocate to get this repair approved (IMO a cost to Denso software update) based on his words on the Jul 18 2019 Corvette C8 reveal speech/ presentation.
(Yet, then there are other issues of leaving a customer base behind...Harmonic Balancer wobble part never being improved. C6 Z06 value issue. There may even be C5 engine issues that wee never improved.)
For the moment, we have a Denso supplier issue related to many other makes of GM cars.
So this is quite a lot of potential returning buyers of GM cars that are disappointed.
So, campaign to Mark?
What's his address/ e-mail?
How would this campaign include (have contribute to) the Cadillac, GMC and other make owners?
If the media got hold of a campaign of thousands/ tens of thousands to Mark because of his quote, and fact that GM is leaving behind their customer base, would that had extra pressure to fix the Nav units?
There are 270K views and over 1000 posts on this thread alone this post alone.
GM must know of this thread, yet no action by GM, just a "were are working on it" comment that never comes to fruition.
Oh well, that suggestion in post 1032 seems likes the best option.
A suggestion then: Here is a very recent quote by GM president Mark Reuss on the launch of the C8. "What we don’t want to do is ever walk away from our customer base,”
That suggestion above seems likes the best option at the moment.
A letter/ email campaign to have Mark advocate to get this repair approved (IMO a cost to Denso software update) based on his words on the Jul 18 2019 Corvette C8 reveal speech/ presentation.
(Yet, then there are other issues of leaving a customer base behind...Harmonic Balancer wobble part never being improved. C6 Z06 value issue. There may even be C5 engine issues that wee never improved.)
For the moment, we have a Denso supplier issue related to many other makes of GM cars.
So this is quite a lot of potential returning buyers of GM cars that are disappointed.
So, campaign to Mark?
What's his address/ e-mail?
How would this campaign include (have contribute to) the Cadillac, GMC and other make owners?
If the media got hold of a campaign of thousands/ tens of thousands to Mark because of his quote, and fact that GM is leaving behind their customer base, would that had extra pressure to fix the Nav units?
There are 270K views and over 1000 posts on this thread alone this post alone.
GM must know of this thread, yet no action by GM, just a "were are working on it" comment that never comes to fruition.
Oh well, that suggestion in post 1032 seems likes the best option.
Intermediate
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I still believe that Nippon Denso knew about this looming problem by 2011 as they changed the radio architecture inside. When they knew this change was coming. I believe its hardware related. If it was firmware they would have released an update long ago. I'd say we are screwed boys. Now GM is taking calls and spewing BS to all of us. Don't count on a fix.
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An earlier post mentioned a GPS change in April 2019 although these problems with the Vettes seemed to start earlier.
I have an old TomTom nav system that is no longer supported, however TomTom did send out a sofware update to correct the expected problem with the GPS change in April. I don't know if it worked because I no longer use the unit (new car has Android Auto so I use the phone for Nav).
You would think Chevy would do the same in support of their $60K cars
I have an old TomTom nav system that is no longer supported, however TomTom did send out a sofware update to correct the expected problem with the GPS change in April. I don't know if it worked because I no longer use the unit (new car has Android Auto so I use the phone for Nav).
You would think Chevy would do the same in support of their $60K cars
Racer
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An earlier post mentioned a GPS change in April 2019 although these problems with the Vettes seemed to start earlier.
I have an old TomTom nav system that is no longer supported, however TomTom did send out a sofware update to correct the expected problem with the GPS change in April. I don't know if it worked because I no longer use the unit (new car has Android Auto so I use the phone for Nav).
You would think Chevy would do the same in support of their $60K cars
I have an old TomTom nav system that is no longer supported, however TomTom did send out a sofware update to correct the expected problem with the GPS change in April. I don't know if it worked because I no longer use the unit (new car has Android Auto so I use the phone for Nav).
You would think Chevy would do the same in support of their $60K cars
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An earlier post mentioned a GPS change in April 2019 although these problems with the Vettes seemed to start earlier.
I have an old TomTom nav system that is no longer supported, however TomTom did send out a sofware update to correct the expected problem with the GPS change in April. I don't know if it worked because I no longer use the unit (new car has Android Auto so I use the phone for Nav).
You would think Chevy would do the same in support of their $60K cars
I have an old TomTom nav system that is no longer supported, however TomTom did send out a sofware update to correct the expected problem with the GPS change in April. I don't know if it worked because I no longer use the unit (new car has Android Auto so I use the phone for Nav).
You would think Chevy would do the same in support of their $60K cars
Racer
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Profits, it seems, wins out over caring about your customers in today's business environment. It is terrible that today's SO CALLED corporate executives just don't get it.
Remember when you were a kid and your family always bought a certain brand of product? Whether it was a car a refrigerator, TV or any other product.
THAT WAS CALLED BRAND LOYALTY. Most times it happened because the product was in some way superior to the competition or the customer felt they were treated well by the company. Today, that is becoming a thing of the past. Corporate America is not interested in you, the customer. IT is only about the profits! Bang 'em hard, get them once and move on to the next customer. It is a sad commentary on today's business world. Yes, I know that NOT ALL companies operate that way. But it seems to me more and more are.
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As far as a fix becoming available I stand by my original analysis:
I think the blame lies the lazy software engineer(s) at Denso who wrote the original radio firmware. This is a tough one for GM; they didn't design or manufacture or the navigation radio and have no in-house ability to correct the problem. So they have to go to Denso for a fix. And if Denso did produce a fix, somebody would have to pay for creating DVDs, distributing, them, etc. And if thousands of radios get this fix, you can assume some number will fail. This is liability that nobody wants. Not GM, Chevrolet, Denso, your local dealer, etc. I'm fully expecting nothing to be done by GM.
I'd be more than happy to have GM prove me wrong but I just don't see it happening.
Racer
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But wouldn't it be simpler and less costly if the fix was posted on Denso's web site and we could all just download it and burn our own DVD's?
Seems like a cheap fix to me.
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Happened to my ‘07 when I changed out the steering wheel about a month ago. Doesn’t really bother me that much, nav still works but I did have to change the nav settings from time of arrival to time until arrival. I just look at my I-watch when I need to know the time. Too many more important things to worry about. Don’t sweat the small things.
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Happened to my ‘07 when I changed out the steering wheel about a month ago. Doesn’t really bother me that much, nav still works but I did have to change the nav settings from time of arrival to time until arrival. I just look at my I-watch when I need to know the time. Too many more important things to worry about. Don’t sweat the small things.
However, it is the principal of the thing. These clocks should work. We all spent many thousands of dollars on these Vettes.
"Americas Sports Car" with non functioning clocks because of a LAZY manufacturer and penny pinching attitude. I think I would rather have the clock to see at a glance than have to look at my 'i WATCH" AND TAKE MY EYES OFF THE ROAD.
It was suggested in an earlier post to send a letter to the president of GM. I wonder if a "sort of" form letter was put together and we could all down load it, then sign our names to it and send it on to GM if that sort of letter campaign would do any good? I guess the least it would do is to let GM /Denso know how many people are effected by this and are disgusted with GM.
Racer
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If it was firmware they would send a fix, Chevy dealers are getting a lot of crap over this. The hardware was changed in 2011 to accept the lower level signal. This signal change is so when we Go to war with China they can stop hostiles from using their GPS. LOL. We are screwed guys!
Burning Brakes
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Yes, I agree with you...it is a small thing and there are more important things to worry about.
However, it is the principal of the thing. These clocks should work. We all spent many thousands of dollars on these Vettes.
"Americas Sports Car" with non functioning clocks because of a LAZY manufacturer and penny pinching attitude. I think I would rather have the clock to see at a glance than have to look at my 'i WATCH" AND TAKE MY EYES OFF THE ROAD.
It was suggested in an earlier post to send a letter to the president of GM. I wonder if a "sort of" form letter was put together and we could all down load it, then sign our names to it and send it on to GM if that sort of letter campaign would do any good? I guess the least it would do is to let GM /Denso know how many people are effected by this and are disgusted with GM.
However, it is the principal of the thing. These clocks should work. We all spent many thousands of dollars on these Vettes.
"Americas Sports Car" with non functioning clocks because of a LAZY manufacturer and penny pinching attitude. I think I would rather have the clock to see at a glance than have to look at my 'i WATCH" AND TAKE MY EYES OFF THE ROAD.
It was suggested in an earlier post to send a letter to the president of GM. I wonder if a "sort of" form letter was put together and we could all down load it, then sign our names to it and send it on to GM if that sort of letter campaign would do any good? I guess the least it would do is to let GM /Denso know how many people are effected by this and are disgusted with GM.
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I wonder if a "sort of" form letter was put together and we could all down load it, then sign our names to it and send it on to GM if that sort of letter campaign would do any good? I guess the least it would do is to let GM /Denso know how many people are effected by this and are disgusted with GM.