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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Technology will come up with another solution........they will make it so you can't see it unless you really work at it............
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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If you mount a Valentine under the mirror using the cord that plugs in the back of the mirror it's very hard to tell you have a detector...especially w/ window tint. I leave mine in all the time and knock on wood no thief has smashed and grabbed yet. Hey, vote for Hitlery...this is nothing compared to the crap she'll propose.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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A Modest Proposal

In recognition that this bill is at least as much related to municipal revenue enhancement as it is to safety, I wish to make a modest proposal:

I suggest that the bill be amended to include language requiring that fine income above 20% of a town's operating budget be sent to the State of Florida.

My guess is that the good Senator will drop his bill like a hot potato.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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There are two other methods the police use for detecting the presence of a radar detector.

1. Radar Detector Detector - A device that listens for specific frequencies emanating from poorly shielded Radar detectors. These detectors use a superheterodyne receivers that radiate on specific frequencies. Today, most quality radar-detectors do a good job in shielding and escape detection from the VG-2.

To illustrate just how far this game of cat and mouse will go, there are now radar-detector-detector-detectors (I think I've got this right..) that will shut off the radar-detector if it detects a radar-detector-detector...

2. Instant-on Radar with vehicle speed monitoring. The operator of the radar unit waits until he sees a speeder. Then pulls the trigger to measure the vehicle speed. If the vehicle suddenly slows down right at the moment the trigger is pulled, the radar operator has reason to suspect that the vehicle has an operating radar detector onboard.

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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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its always those damn ACRS(alachua county residents) that screw everything up.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dgdoc
There are two other methods the police use for detecting the presence of a radar detector.

1. Radar Detector Detector - A device that listens for specific frequencies emanating from poorly shielded Radar detectors. These detectors use a superheterodyne receivers that radiate on specific frequencies. Today, most of quality devices do a good job in shielding and escape detection from the VG-2.

To illustrate just how far this game of cat and mouse will go, there are now radar-detector-detector-detectors (I think I've got this right..) that will shut off the radar-detector if it detects a radar-detector-detector...

2. Instant-on Radar with vehicle speed monitoring. The operator of the radar unit waits until he sees a speeder. Then pulls the trigger to measure the vehicle speed. If the vehicle suddenly slows down right at the moment the trigger is pulled, the radar operator has reason to suspect that the vehicle has an operating radar detector onboard.
Why do you guys think laser was introduced? Instant verification of your vehicles speed - bang, you're dead. The only reason they want to pass these laws is to **** off enthusiasts and save money by not having to buy more laser detection devices, which are expensive.

Bottom line - there are PLENTY of speeders without detectors out there to give all the tickets in the world to - the reason they want to pass this bill is that they are trying to control all the drivers and specifically the "bad" drivers who speed (like all the rest) but slow down to avoid tickets (naughty naughty).

This **** happened in Ontario, Canada - and the result today is that there are very few laser units because of the lack of radar detectors - so they run radar, give out as many tickets as they want, and use VG2 to nail the guys who buy the cheaper radar units (read: not valentine 1) that can be picked up by VG2.

And technology marches on!

I stopped using a radar detector in Canada long ago. They just sit in plain view on the sides of the road or come up behind you. If you are vigilant in looking for them, you'll always spot them. Now - if you try to drive in the U.S. without one, you're looking for trouble, as they really try to hide and us instant on etc etc. Frankly, it is easier to speed in Canada because the detectors are outlawed. Just buy a valentine 1 and enjoy!

The only real problem if they get truly outlawed is that the detector companies will be put out of business!
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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They were illegal here in Connecticut for years and a few years ago they made them legal! About the only place I know of is Virginia that they are not legal as of now. You need to call and write your legislators or both. Get caught speeding with one here and the Cops sometimes write "professional speeder" on the back of his copy of the ticket for if and when you go to court!

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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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this real BS I really depend on my detector and will continue to use it.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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VA doesn't allow detectors and the highway patrol are out of control. I personally hate driving through Virginia for this reason
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful
Personally, I favor this legislation. I think this endangers other lawful drivers. It has been proven, as speed increases, so do accidents.
There are too many idiots driving in Florida- maybe this will help.
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any reasonable person in this country knows that speed enforcement is a revenue generator policy and has nothing to do with safety. There are no known incidents to date where a police radar prevented a Z06 crash during an all out high speed run.

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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by easyrider13
Isn't Alachua County (especially US 301 through Waldo and Lawtey) known for their speed traps?
Shame on them.
I went through that area at least 20 times, not once without the presence of LEO in those areas. Those boys in blue generate their salaries and some from revenues obtained from their radar guns. They pray on uninformed tourists who travel through their corrupt towns. Fortunately, I never had the pleasure to support them financially. The speed limit does drop from 65 to 35 several places and you can always find a cruiser nearby.

Bondmid003, I agree, driving through VA is one of the worst part of my trip to FL. I usually avoid stopping in VA for the same reason, why should I support their economy with my gasoline and food purchases?

Mr. Wonderful, one other thought, your uninformed sentiment about "speed kills" won't find too many sympathetic ears on this forum.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by billcar9999
Perhaps they should ban idiots instead.
There wouldn't be anyone on the road to give tickets to!!!
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful
Personally, I favor this legislation. I think this endangers other lawful drivers. It has been proven, as speed increases, so do accidents.
There are too many idiots driving in Florida- maybe this will help.
When I used to commute from Boca, Deerfield, and Delray going south, I found that most of the time traffic was flowing around 75-80 on I95 without too much problems. The left lane blockers were a nuisance, but that was it.

On the trip home, the traffic flowed about 50 or less, and there were usually a couple of accidents.

As to being proven, I have never found anything to support that. The NTHSA accident and death reports each year try to point to that, but they never prove it. Similar to the helmet law issues with "proving" that helmetless riders will die more often. They just may, but they have to be in an accident to find out. And while there has been a steady increase in rider deaths in Florida, no one has mentioned the increase in riders.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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Write a letter to your local senaters and tell others about this bill so that we can stop it from passing.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LAKEMARY2000
Write a letter to your local senaters and tell others about this bill so that we can stop it from passing.
If you get a chance fill out your profile. I might have seen you on the local roads.

I agree, we need to make our voices heard.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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I'd bet that just as many traffic accidents are caused by slow drivers than by fast drivers.. Driving fast doesn't automatically mean bad or risky driving.. I've been driving since 18 years and have not been fault in a single accident and I'm always above the speed limit..
Bad drivers will cause accidents if they go slow or fast...
Slow drivers are a SERIOUS problem in Florida and they cause tons of accident.. You can see some 85+ year old people driving with 25 mph in a 45 mph limit etc... or like 50 mph on the interstate..
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 04ctsvfl
its always those damn ACRS(alachua county residents) that screw everything up.
Its about time Palm Beach isn't being blamed for something!!
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Politicians = Fools
Speed Traps = Revenue
Ban Detectors = Just Go Stealth

It makes no difference.

If the Politicians truly cared about Public Safety - they would ban the Octogenarians that drive the wrong way on 1 way streets (saw it 3 times in the past week coming towards me - serious) and the multitude of inattentive and slow drivers.

They kill - not speed.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Pat07c6z
If you mount a Valentine under the mirror using the cord that plugs in the back of the mirror it's very hard to tell you have a detector...especially w/ window tint. I leave mine in all the time and knock on wood no thief has smashed and grabbed yet.
Have to watch the tint, it can decrease the sensitivity in the radar detector.


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Hey, vote for Hitlery...this is nothing compared to the crap she'll propose.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bondmid003
VA doesn't allow detectors and the highway patrol are out of control. I personally hate driving through Virginia for this reason
Trying living here.
I counted 19 troopers in 23 miles last 4th of July weekend...I kid you not.
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