Does it matter given the entire context? Either he does the right thing or he takes my money and the switch. Either way I learn NEVER to buy broken parts and only ones that I can be 100 percent sure that they function properly.

I’d rather keep this to a business matter as everything else is irrelevant. I work for the Federal Government and I will leave it at that.

 

1. I have all the emails. You stated that you would take a return multiple times. See above.
2. You also claimed the part as working. It NEVER was. I took a chance that your word was good.
3. What exactly is the problem and what did you hope to accomplish with this thread?

Bottom line is you sold a broken part knowingly or not, offered to take it back.

I would refund you if the roles were reversed and I would never in a million years made a public thread like this.

I don’t understand why you would do this, but here we are.

 

I will give you my 2 cents on this knowing the seller from buying a few item that where as described as an honest upfront member that offered to work with the buyer of a used electrical part but to wait 5 months to return it that is a little much, i would offer to refund 50% of the part cost in good faith.
regards Bob

 

That's not going to buy you much credibility around here

 

I would offer 100 percent, especially if I sold someone a part that did not work.

That would make it entirely even. But that’s just the way I operate. I’m not one to take advantage of a situation, especially on a forum designed to help.

 

So why did you wait so long to return the item?

 

I’m one of the good ones. Anti-Brandon if you know what I mean.

 

Maybe I just got back to the United States…

 

Maybe? Or really?

If "really", did you make an effort to warn pop there would be a delay in sending the part back?

 

He did not give me a time frame nor did we discuss one. I did not think this would be a big deal or issue given that the switch was completely useless from the start.

What would have been the difference? If he wants to wait the exact time I waited to refund, that’s fine. We will both have a laugh at it I suppose.

But yes, this is really the first chance I have to deal with this since late November, early December as I have been on assignment.

 

So, how do you market used electrical devices without proof it works under load? Or even if you do test it, how do you show it works without a video showing a megger and installed operation? Even with the video, how do you mark the part to confirm it is the one tested? And will the courts require the buyer to produce the part in court?

I have sold a few 50 year old plus electrical parts and got a couple of complaints that they did not work. Upon paying for return, I found the identifying mark I put in a non-conspicuous place was not there. Obviously the buyer sent me his failed part, but I had already sent him a refund. Yes, I am stupid and lucky enough to have made a good living. Try getting a warrantee from vendors or local parts stores on electrical parts, pretty rare. Prove to me your shop installing the part didn't blow it! Too many variables.
This is a Capitalistic country where the lawyers are the only ones to win and profits. I am ready to trash a half a century of parts rather than let my wife put up with the aggravation of selling them when I die. The dishonesty exists on both ends, both seller and buyer, due to lack of morality and honor. It is easier to steal than work for a living whether the income is $20K or $500K per year or month.
Is there a resolution?? Certainly not in Illinois or the federal government in my opinion.
So how do you teach "HONESTY" and INTEGRITY" without personally experiencing the cost of "DEMOCRACY" in the lost lives of those that believed when they went to war? You can't teach the greedy.

Ron

 

The Multifunction Switch I was sent had clear distinctive marks on it from previous use, little marks in the stalk. It did not look that great when I got it as my original Switch looked brand new.

You can match the numerical markings, serial numbers as well. I sent back the one I was sent.

Also, his grandson tried to install it in his corvette and it did not work or solve his issue. Of course that was not revealed to me until after I bought it.

Honesty. Integrity.

It sure is missing these days. From Generation Z to Boomers….

 

So you did not share with pop the information that there would be a delay in sending back the switch.

 

I thought that buying parts from forum members and not from a business would have the advantage, especially if there was an issue. I did not think our transaction as a money making venture but as I need a part that works, and he has what I need.

The part never worked unbeknownst to me and possibly to Pop as well.

I guess I should get in the Broken parts business. Looks like it’s a fool proof way to make money.

 

Uhh, you were told this was the switch from my grandson’s Corvette. Keep talking. It’s getting clearer to everyone.
Reread post 22 please.

 

I informed him immediately that the part he sent me was Faulty. He said no rush in returning it, after the Holidays. As per email.

Well Passover is still viable…and that is a Holiday. Ha!

But yeah, as per the emails there did not seem to be any sense of immediacy on either of our parts as he knew I intended to return it, agreed to it and no further emails were exchanged from either party.

 

Actually, I have sold only a couple of electrical parts - on line. One return, which I promptly paid the shipping and returned the money, but then disassembled the returned part and found my identifying mark was not there. What do you think?
I have various electrical components that I would sell, but my name and reputation is worth more than the megger price I would ask.
I regret the loss of lives of those that served this country in the name of Democracy only to find they were serving Capitalism, the worst enemy of Democracy.
Honesty and Integrity is only maintained when you can look in the mirror and not find just another thief. Worse are those that turn their back on the victims of Capitalism.
Look in the mirror when you say "BUYER BEWAR".
Ron

 

What’s clear to everyone?

One of us is laying out the entire story.

I bought the switch before you told me that it failed to solve your grandsons issue.

I bit the cost of having the broken switch installed after assuming it was 100 percent functional. Why would you sell a broken part for 150 dollars? I think you did not know it was faulty and just assumed it wasn’t. How could have I known it was a broken part?

Why did this have to be a game of chance?

 

Well we are a Constitutional Republic and not a democracy.

Our main issue in this country is a lack of shared reality and a deference to “experts”.

Nobody is honest with anyone about anything anymore. It’s always a blame game and expecting someone else to solve a problem or to lessen the blow.

And then you have a lack of curiosity writ large as well as a public highly receptive to pure propaganda. And it’s only getting worse…That I can tell you.

What were we talking about again…?. Multifunction switches ha ha

I still love everyone here!!!

 

I just operate different. As I said, if the roles were reversed I would give you a full refund, even a year from now, because I would be aware that I sold you a broken part from day one. I would also realize that I’m not a mega business and that I am a guy on a community forum transacting with another genuine human forum member and the goal here is to not make money, but an exchange within a community with the goal of a positive outcome for all.

That’s the way I see it.

How is this unfair to you my friend?