Three way?!!
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Racer
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Three way?!!
...or Components?
er...what did you think I was talking about?
I've always liked the sound of a good solid set of 6x9 3-way speakers, and have had them in all my other cars. This is my first C5, and it seems everybody here puts in 6.5" comps in their doors. I've NEVER been a 'tweeter' guy, and the tweets and midranges on the 3-ways I've had have always been exactly the amount of highs that I want.
2 questions: Is it possible to install 6x9's in C5 doors? Or should I step in line with everybody else and go with some 6.5" components?
er...what did you think I was talking about?
I've always liked the sound of a good solid set of 6x9 3-way speakers, and have had them in all my other cars. This is my first C5, and it seems everybody here puts in 6.5" comps in their doors. I've NEVER been a 'tweeter' guy, and the tweets and midranges on the 3-ways I've had have always been exactly the amount of highs that I want.
2 questions: Is it possible to install 6x9's in C5 doors? Or should I step in line with everybody else and go with some 6.5" components?
Race Director
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Originally Posted by 2002-C5
Just an idea.. Infinity 6.1 Kappa Perfects
http://www.infinitysystems.com/caraudio/product.aspx?ProdId='KAPPA+PERFECT6.1'&S er=KPE&Cat=COS
I have them in my C5, Amazing!
http://www.infinitysystems.com/caraudio/product.aspx?ProdId='KAPPA+PERFECT6.1'&S er=KPE&Cat=COS
I have them in my C5, Amazing!
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Originally Posted by Xtreme5053
Three way components! 
Focal makes good stuff.
Focal makes good stuff.I wonder if CDT might not be a more affordable alternative.
Then again, he doesn't like highs, so either way, we are wasting his cash.
I am sure 6x9s will fit. Just make a baffle to hold it.
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Thanks for the suggestions...and the MSRP for the Kappa Perfects is well over $400...when I was looking at the neighborhood of a buck fiddy. 
Bogus, Et. Al: Any chance 6x9's wouldn't fit? I understand that I'll need to make or buy an MDF mounting plate, drilled to fit the particular speakers, but I'm not sure how big the speaker cavity in the door is, or how deep. The FAQ only says "You can pretty much fit any size speaker in the doors of a C5". Maybe I'll drop some 18" subs in the doors.
Thanks! (I'll look into Focals and start counting my son's piggy bank change.)
Bogus, Et. Al: Any chance 6x9's wouldn't fit? I understand that I'll need to make or buy an MDF mounting plate, drilled to fit the particular speakers, but I'm not sure how big the speaker cavity in the door is, or how deep. The FAQ only says "You can pretty much fit any size speaker in the doors of a C5". Maybe I'll drop some 18" subs in the doors.
Thanks! (I'll look into Focals and start counting my son's piggy bank change.)
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I have a set of baffles in my garage let me go see if a 6X9 seams doable for you. Ok its deff gonna be tight, the 9" part is no problem, but 6 is cutting it a lil close. Heres my thoughts you might have to trim the door panel a lil no biggie to get it to fit, or u like 1/2 instead of 1/4 inch for your baffle and build it out. A 5X7 would fit with room to spare and I would say go for it and get that 6X9 in there. Also do you plan on amping them
Last edited by pentavolvo; Aug 1, 2006 at 10:54 PM.
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Racer
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Originally Posted by pentavolvo
Please post pics and let us know how it goes, I am very interested in how all this pans out for you
Here's my thinking so far...maybe somebody can help me fill in the gaps:
Alpine CDE-9852 HU (iPod ready, 1 pre out...is all I need because...)
Alpine ERE-G180 11 band Graphic EQ (L-R preouts, Sub out w/ Xover and gain control) or
Kenwood KGC-6042A Graphic..because the Alpine is discontinued.
(undediced on amplifier. Want 400-500 to a sub, and at least 150 each to the doors. I'd like it all in 1 amplifier...so a 4 channel with 2 channels bridged to the sub would be perfect. I'm thinking between 800-1000W amp would work...any suggestions?
Sub: Elemental Designs 13Ov.2 (12", 600watts) in a flush-mount box from CorvetteCarAudio.com or other.
Doors: I don't know...mounting plates from CorvetteCarAudio.com or other.
So really, I'm just undecided on the doors and the amp. I shouldn't need a cap or anything truly fancy.
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IMO go with a higher end HU with good EQ and ditch the seperate EQ but to everyone there own. Seeing as you plan on running a sub I would reccomend going to 6.5" 2 way components they will be cleaner and the sub will fill in any bass you loose from the 6x9. That sub is a killer sub and will pound hard, I have the 16ov and you can ask Duramax Dave and Wiz they just heard it and its killer. Im gonna hunt around and see if I cant find a 4 channel amp that would be big enough for your needs. This might fill ur needs http://sonicelectronix.com/item_3030.html . IMO you will be better off running 2 seperate amps a 2 channel and a mono block, its gonna be hard to find a 4 channel that drops that much power for a sub
Last edited by pentavolvo; Aug 2, 2006 at 12:03 PM.
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Originally Posted by pentavolvo
IMO go with a higher end HU with good EQ and ditch the seperate EQ but to everyone there own.
Perhaps my last car wasn't hooked up properly, but both used the same amp and JL Audio sub...the only difference was the EQ in the last, last car.
Any head units that have an integrated graphic or flexible parametric EQ that is more than just Bass and Treble? I'm willing to look elsewhere and stray from Alpine...which has been my deck of choice for 10 years.
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I have a slightly older Alpine 9831 or somthin like that 7 band eq and i really like it. Ask DPG what he thinks about the EQ on his eclipse its a pretty killer setup as well. I think my sub level control works quite well to be honest. What is your budget for amps
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I have no personal experience, but many people on these forums like Eclipse for the clear sound and the EQ'ing abilities of their decks. I know other advice I have gotten from these forums has been good so far. So check out some Eclipse cd players.
I can attest to the 16Ov.2 that Greg (Pentavolvo) has. That thing amazed me. It used a smaller box than I expected, hit tighter than I expected but still went down low like I thought it would. A real good choice since he has the room for a 15".
So, I think you will be happy with the 13Ov.2. If it comes down to not finding an amp you like that can supply the power, I bet the 13Kv.2 would work just fine in a Vette. I know my 11Kv.2 hits pretty well and I'm at the minimum recommended power right now. The two 11Kv.2's in my truck are getting fed at the high end of the power band and they REALLY hit much harder.
So check out some Eclipse cd players.I can attest to the 16Ov.2 that Greg (Pentavolvo) has. That thing amazed me. It used a smaller box than I expected, hit tighter than I expected but still went down low like I thought it would. A real good choice since he has the room for a 15".
So, I think you will be happy with the 13Ov.2. If it comes down to not finding an amp you like that can supply the power, I bet the 13Kv.2 would work just fine in a Vette. I know my 11Kv.2 hits pretty well and I'm at the minimum recommended power right now. The two 11Kv.2's in my truck are getting fed at the high end of the power band and they REALLY hit much harder.
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http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=4617 This eclipse amp would work well but its only like 300wrms bridged for the sub which would work great with either the 13kv or 13ov. This kicker is a tank but woudl work nicely http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...Product_ID=283 has a semi big footprint though or this guy http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=3959
Lots of options but these amps are gonna have huge footprints. What are you goals for the system unless you want groudn pounding bass I think 300wrms might be a better goal for your sub and it woudl get you into a smaller footprint
Lots of options but these amps are gonna have huge footprints. What are you goals for the system unless you want groudn pounding bass I think 300wrms might be a better goal for your sub and it woudl get you into a smaller footprint
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I have to agree with most people that you are better served buying a set of 6.5" components like an Elemental designs set than you are using a 6x9" speaker. They are notoriously inefficient and rose to popularity from the OEM's that had 3-5" drivers in the front of cars that were unable to play any real bass, so they opted for the largest speaker they could fit in the rear deck of most cars that were capable of playing SOME bass. not only that but they are pretty restricted in terms of aiming/imaging options vs what the component set will allow.
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Thanks Fej...I'm beginning to realize that as I research more and more.
Also, pentavolvo and DuramaxDave, I'll be looking into a more flexible HU as opposed to a dedicated EQ...I'm not sure if I could mount both the HU and a 1/2 DIN EQ in the dash without modifications anyway.
I'm also considering, in lieu of a massive 4 channel amp, to get either two 2 channel amps or one 2 channel and one 1 channel. Once you get into lower powered (600watts or so), the options are baffling. I've had Rockford amps, but now the prices are a little prohibitive.
I'm looking to spend no more than $1200 for the components (HU, Doors, Amp, Sub) ...and have $500 budgeted for the box, sound deadening, mounting plates, and wiring.
The ED 130v.2 is $195 from their website...so that leaves me roughly $900 left for the HU and Amp(s).
Also, pentavolvo and DuramaxDave, I'll be looking into a more flexible HU as opposed to a dedicated EQ...I'm not sure if I could mount both the HU and a 1/2 DIN EQ in the dash without modifications anyway.
I'm also considering, in lieu of a massive 4 channel amp, to get either two 2 channel amps or one 2 channel and one 1 channel. Once you get into lower powered (600watts or so), the options are baffling. I've had Rockford amps, but now the prices are a little prohibitive.
I'm looking to spend no more than $1200 for the components (HU, Doors, Amp, Sub) ...and have $500 budgeted for the box, sound deadening, mounting plates, and wiring.
The ED 130v.2 is $195 from their website...so that leaves me roughly $900 left for the HU and Amp(s).
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http://www.edesignaudio.com/groupbuy.php i just brought your price down quite a bit, there components and amps are also stellar. 500 for mounting plates etc seems way high to me
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Originally Posted by pentavolvo
http://www.edesignaudio.com/groupbuy.php i just brought your price down quite a bit, there components and amps are also stellar. 500 for mounting plates etc seems way high to me
Thanks for the link...I'll definitely keep it in mind.