i cant believe i'm replying to this. but i think the big issue with this thread is that you have a ton of information but you want to be spoon fed. we usually dont have an issue doing this but you're attitude is actually making it hard to want to help you. instead of "coaxial and not component? WTF is that? just another question needing answered that never will." maybe you could have thanked me for the input and asked directly "im not sure what the difference between coaxial and component speakers are, mind to enlighten me?" then i would have gladly told you the difference. another option was to just type 'coaxial speaker' into google and you would have gotten this as your first search result:
http://www.caraudiohelp.com/coaxial_...l_speakers.htm

which would have told you exactly what a coaxial speaker is.

you don't need to go buy the most expensive crap out there, i told you to go and trust your ears, not your wallet. We aren't a bunch of high school punks here and most would be more then willing to help calm, level headed men (or women) who are open to learning.

with your head unit setup you dont have to really worry about the specs on the drivers. you're not getting into anything serious here, you just want a plug and play solution. any speaker you listen too will work with your head unit.

 

ATTITUDE

 

I got an attitude mainly because people seemed to be ignoring the the questions and coming up with completely opposite stuff and ultimately contributing nothing to help me out. Then i get frustrated and bash this section leading to more of the same and so on. While i understand you guys aren't getting paid for this i should have been more appreciative and patient.
I came here for assistance from people who know more then i do. I dont' know if i didn't provide enough information at the start or made it clear enough about what i was looking for but something ended up not working out. In 40+ posts i'm still pretty much lost.


I'm sorry i wasn't more appreciative of the actual useful information that i did receive as there was a lot of it...just spaced out between the bashings and unnecessary posts. Some people did provide speakers that might have worked for me but just saying they sounded nice in the store wasn't enough i'm afraid and i probably didn't make that clear in the first post.

I asked for 3 things. What are good speakers that are they in my price range?, How do i install them?, and should i change the front or rear first?

Out of the many many posts i still have no clue on the proper way to install them, still don't know what to look for in a speaker so i can make an informed decision on what to pick out., but did have 1 post that said to change the fronts.
The finding the proper speakers was worked out early when nobody could pick for me as people have different opinions. But then i asked the question of what do i need to look for in a speaker to figure out if it works with my CD player and car. And so far haven't a clue to that question either. All i know is i need to buy the ones that sound good at the store...

I don't know but you would think in between all the bashing of my manors and how ungrateful i am an answer would be provided in there...but it isn't. Calling me names and insulting me and what not definitely just made me more ungrateful/mad and it wasn't a good thing for anyone.

What i learned: Size of speakers, a few types/brands/models that are good for some and worth looking into.

What i need to look into myself: some inform me to get 6x9 while others think i shouldn't, some say i should run new wires while others say i don't, some think i need to install more expensive stuff but i can't, some want me to pay for the install instead of taking the 2 min to explain that i just need to splice the new with the old. some think that no matter what i use it'll get distorted while others say it doesn't matter what i use as it'll all work. coaxial vs. component

Things i left out in the first post. I don't have the bose system, i'm a cheap/poor bum, don't know anything about audio stuff.

 

5 1/4 in front
6x9 in back

no need to run new wires

ive already made my brand recommendation for your budget

do the fronts first

check out c4faq for a how to on removing the doors

 

This guy as GOT to be an Internet troll, guys.



How in the world could a 21 year old college student act this way? Seriously?

Parents/teachers/professors give their children small tasks with the intention of having them do some research, maybe some homework, think a little bit, and come back with the results. As they progress, the tasks become increasingly more difficult to maximize the persons potential.

From what I can tell, this guy is really good at looking at the problem, then expecting the answers to be spoon-fed to him. No homework, no research, no thought process.

Certainly no manners.

When he doesn't get what he wants, he whines, complains, uses snide remarks, and does what he can to draw attention to himself and his situation... until he gets what he wants; a final answer. (But even that it's not good enough, is it?)

I think people continue to enable this type of behavior because they feel sorry for him, or are tired of his complaining, etc...

How incredibly sad if he's really a 'real' person and not a troll.

Imagine how well this will go over once he's out of school and 'in the real world.' Do you think his boss will put up with that crap?

Well, the good thing is this: When he is delivering pizzas in his Vette, he'll be able to get it to the customer in 30 minutes or less. I guess there's always a silver lining, ehh?

Mark

 

He's not a troll, just immature.

 

One thing you have to know about this section of the forum is that it is inhabited mostly by C5 and C6 guys. The reason is simple, that they use there cars as daily drivers, so they spend more $$$ on there stereo systems then C4 guys do. Plus, there cars are much easier to work on when it comes to stereo upgrades. They are good guys who will help were they can, but there knowledge of the C4 is limited.
In reading your posts, I wonder if you have read the C4 sticky at the top of the section. I believe that, if you had, most of your questions would have been answered. Here is a link:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=941281

I have completely replaced the Bose system in my car, a '90, so I can answer just about any question you have. Please feel free to send me a PM, I also have some pictures of my install that I can send you.

Randy

 

had to take the upper road huh?

 

Well, for better or worse, he is a C4 guy, not allot of us in this section. I try to get the C4 guys to come to this section and read the C4 sticky, but it is hard, because they say no one answers their questions. I found this forum because I was looking for answers about what to do w/ the Bose in my car, and I got my answers and help here. Just trying to keep it going.

Randy

 

its cool. i think we all try to help, just sometimes we get put off. There are a bunch of great guy shere and thats the reason why i stay in here and rarely go to c5 general

 

http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-...allationguide/

http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-FEZncfmThb8/videos/

Here are some basics. I would install an amp and run new wires to the speakers. It's not really hard.

 

Oh no! You gave him advise outside of his original question. Prepare to be kicked it the *****.

 

Punisher, relax I'm replying because I'm in the exact same situation as you and I want to pass on some of what I found out:

I've decided on Elemental Designs gear - they seem to have some really nice quality stuff, nice understated designs and at a good price. I have the crappy Delco system in my '96 and I am doing the upgrade in stages.

I started with the C4 Audio FAQ which is a great place to start- there are links to how-to threads and some have pics so you can see what you're getting into. It really is simpler than I was thinking too. FOr me I want to get all my speakers and amp from the same place so I know they are compatible and I don't have to worry the details.

I learned that I want a nice set of 2-way components in the front to start with (I have the head unit already which I learned from the FAQ stuff needs to hook up to the stock receiver which is in the back compartment).

The speakers are easy if you don't want to rewire them - 5 1/4 are stock size in the front but for a better sound (from fronts only) 6.5" will fit with some fabrication of the front speaker mounts (someone has pics of a nice build of custom MDF units in one of those threads I mentioned)
I don't have the tools or space to build boxes so I think I'll stick to the stock size (see Elemental Designs website for nice selection based on price)

In the back I decided on 2 subs in the stock enclosures. I don't want to muck about fabbing new sub boxes and I want to keep the storage compartment as I actually use it. Lots of people mount their sub here. I want to keep the stock look also. ED have 6.5" ones that will go into the stock rear holes with one of their adapter plates or you can get a better sound from 8" which looks like it needs a bit of modification (I'm a bit hazy in this area). I looked at getting 6x9s which would be a direct and very easy replacement, but I want subs and understand that you don't really need rear fill if you have nice components in the front.

You can use the stock wires with the Delco or aftermarket system (not sure about Bose - there's a bit more to it). I used to splice wires the crappy way, just twisting them together and taping the join with electrical tape, but this will come apart eventually and is not the way to do it, so I bought a soldering iron and will join them properly and used heat-shrink tubing over the join. All this stuff you can get from Radio Shack or OSH, Home Depot, etc. or even online pretty cheaply.

Last night I tried the 'Elmers glue mod' which is in the C4 FAQ. You can paint the stock paper speaker domes with a solution of glue that stiffens them a little and improves the sound a bit. I did rears last night and will do fronts tomorrow. This is a stop-gap until I get the new speakers, but also great practice at figuring out how everything comes apart and goes back together so when I get the new parts it should be a fairly quick job and I won't be sweating

I'm getting the front components first as the heart of the system, then an 4-way amp and the subs later. Either after or at the time I do the head unit I will replace the wiring.

I printed out wiring loom diagrams with the color coding from the links mentioned and have those studied. Some of it doesn't match up to what I've seen so far but it's still a big help to figure what connects to what.

I'm gonna leave it at that for now as I'm no expert, except to say I've used this excellent forum almost exclusively and not had to ask too many questions - it just takes time to a) dig out the info and b) decide what you want based on the info gathered.

Good luck and I'll post my progress later.