PAC Issues...
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If he only has 6v on the green wire with the pac harness installed, but everything works fine with the pac harness removed, maybe the harness has issues.
Rossi,
Can you check for 12v on the orange wires I mentioned in FAQ post #9? The green wire pulls in a relay, which then supplies a fused 12v to the door subs on those orange wires.
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Yes. I'll do this tomorrow. In FAQ post # 9, there are several links that aren't active. Could you PM them to me or reply with the links here? Thanks...
By the way, Penta mentioned and I think I've seen the schematic that shows the antenna was on pin 8 of the radio harness. Does not having an antenna mean anything here...? (FRC).
"Can you check for 12v on the orange wires I mentioned in FAQ post #9? The green wire pulls in a relay, which then supplies a fused 12v to the door subs on those orange wires..."
By the way, Penta mentioned and I think I've seen the schematic that shows the antenna was on pin 8 of the radio harness. Does not having an antenna mean anything here...? (FRC).
"Can you check for 12v on the orange wires I mentioned in FAQ post #9? The green wire pulls in a relay, which then supplies a fused 12v to the door subs on those orange wires..."
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In FAQ post # 9, there are several links that aren't active. Could you PM them to me or reply with the links here? Thanks...
By the way, Penta mentioned and I think I've seen the schematic that shows the antenna was on pin 8 of the radio harness. Does not having an antenna mean anything here...?
By the way, Penta mentioned and I think I've seen the schematic that shows the antenna was on pin 8 of the radio harness. Does not having an antenna mean anything here...?
The green wire is supplied 12v from the radio, look at schem 2 to see everything it feeds. Not having a load shouldn't matter, the radio would still be putting out 12v.
If I was there, I'm sure I would either have you working properly or be able to pinpoint the exact problem in under 10 minutes. You need to figure out what voltage your radio is putting out on the rap wire. If it were me, I'd cut the white? wire in the pac harness and see what the voltage is. If you have 12v, that would point to a short somewhere on your green wire, in which case I'd just connect the amp trigger wire to the white? wire (coming directly out of the radio on the pac harness) and call it done.
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The PAC harness connects between the radio and the oem plug. The green pin 8 wire is on the oem plug. There MUST be a wire in the PAC harness that lines up to the green wire at pin 8, or pin 8 will NEVER get powered. I'm just suggesting that he taps the wire in that harness (white?) and goes straight to the amp trigger with it, that way the pac box will be bypassed, along with several possible bad connection points.
If he only has 6v on the green wire with the pac harness installed, but everything works fine with the pac harness removed, maybe the harness has issues.
Rossi,
Can you check for 12v on the orange wires I mentioned in FAQ post #9? The green wire pulls in a relay, which then supplies a fused 12v to the door subs on those orange wires.
If he only has 6v on the green wire with the pac harness installed, but everything works fine with the pac harness removed, maybe the harness has issues.
Rossi,
Can you check for 12v on the orange wires I mentioned in FAQ post #9? The green wire pulls in a relay, which then supplies a fused 12v to the door subs on those orange wires.
the pac harness only plugs into the smaller plug running to the BSP not the main plug where the remote is, you actually splice the wire into there.
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Quick update in case anyone is online...
Bose system fronts and RAP work flawlessly with the PAC disconnected! Also there is ONLY 6 volts to the dark green wire at pin 8. There are two other wires on the black plug (link from Penta above) that show 12 Volts. I think they are pin # 10 (brown) and pin # 8 (purple). If you're looking INTO the radio, they'd be #'s 1 and 3 on the top black plug...
I'm not even going to try the new box because I don't think it's the problem! Is ther ANY way that a hardtop / Z06 could be wired differently than a Vert.' / Coupe??? I'm wondering if I should tap one of the other 12 volt wires that I mentioned above...
Rossi
Bose system fronts and RAP work flawlessly with the PAC disconnected! Also there is ONLY 6 volts to the dark green wire at pin 8. There are two other wires on the black plug (link from Penta above) that show 12 Volts. I think they are pin # 10 (brown) and pin # 8 (purple). If you're looking INTO the radio, they'd be #'s 1 and 3 on the top black plug...
I'm not even going to try the new box because I don't think it's the problem! Is ther ANY way that a hardtop / Z06 could be wired differently than a Vert.' / Coupe??? I'm wondering if I should tap one of the other 12 volt wires that I mentioned above...
Rossi
Last edited by Rossi396; Feb 3, 2010 at 09:12 AM.
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Fixed...!
And no, I don't believe it was "operator error!"
Hooked the PAC back up and used the purple wire I mentioned earlier. I checked the brown and purple with a volt meter and saw that the purple lost voltage a few seconds after the car was shut off. (Brown stayed hot). Amp turns on, all controls work, and I have RAP!!
Now, can someone please explain to me WTF happened? I've looked through the schematics that Mark sent yesterday and I can't even FIND a purple wire! (Maybe I'm missing something)...
Regardles...It's done. I'm putting it back together now and I'll post up the pics I took of the progress later today or tomorrow.
Thanks to everyone who helped...
Regards,
Rossi
Hooked the PAC back up and used the purple wire I mentioned earlier. I checked the brown and purple with a volt meter and saw that the purple lost voltage a few seconds after the car was shut off. (Brown stayed hot). Amp turns on, all controls work, and I have RAP!!
Now, can someone please explain to me WTF happened? I've looked through the schematics that Mark sent yesterday and I can't even FIND a purple wire! (Maybe I'm missing something)...
Regardles...It's done. I'm putting it back together now and I'll post up the pics I took of the progress later today or tomorrow.
Thanks to everyone who helped...
Regards,
Rossi
Last edited by Rossi396; Mar 22, 2010 at 09:19 PM.
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That's what I'm thinking, Greg. And I still keep thinking it might be something to do with the antenna. I spent a day and a half and countless hours on the phone with Sonic Electronix and Peripheral and it turns out the directions may be wrong for the car! Not to mention another $45.00 for a replacement unit and $38.00 to ship it overnight!
Have the bass boost on now and all other settings as you suggested...Sounds awesome!
Rossi
Have the bass boost on now and all other settings as you suggested...Sounds awesome!
Rossi
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PURPLE 
I'm glad you finally got it working, but after looking through ALL of the available C5 schematics, there isn't even supposed to be anything purple, not on C1, not anywhere
I did find a few 'base' prints to go with the 'Bose' prints I posted in the FAQ, I'll get them added, but they don't show a purple wire either.
Now go for a drive and enjoy that new setup, you've earned it
I'm glad you finally got it working, but after looking through ALL of the available C5 schematics, there isn't even supposed to be anything purple, not on C1, not anywhere
I did find a few 'base' prints to go with the 'Bose' prints I posted in the FAQ, I'll get them added, but they don't show a purple wire either.Now go for a drive and enjoy that new setup, you've earned it
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And no, I don't believe it was "operator error!"
Hooked the PAC back up and used the purple wire I mentioned earlier. I checked the brown and purple with a volt meter and saw that the purple lost voltage a few seconds after the car was shut off. (Brown stayed hot). Amp turns on, all controls work, and I have RAP!!
Now, can someone please explain to me WTF happened? I've looked through the schematics that Mark sent yesterday and I can't even FIND a purple wire! (Maybe I'm nissing something)...
Regardles...It's done. I'm putting it back together now and I'll post up the pics I took of the progress later today or tomorrow.
Thanks to everyone who helped...
Regards,
Rossi
Hooked the PAC back up and used the purple wire I mentioned earlier. I checked the brown and purple with a volt meter and saw that the purple lost voltage a few seconds after the car was shut off. (Brown stayed hot). Amp turns on, all controls work, and I have RAP!!
Now, can someone please explain to me WTF happened? I've looked through the schematics that Mark sent yesterday and I can't even FIND a purple wire! (Maybe I'm nissing something)...
Regardles...It's done. I'm putting it back together now and I'll post up the pics I took of the progress later today or tomorrow.
Thanks to everyone who helped...
Regards,
Rossi
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