Finished my install!
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Well, right now I'm heavily leaning towards LESS sub, a 3-way component, and a DSP. That 10W7 is great if you're trying to blow the windows out...but not for precision or sound "quality."
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Funny shenanigans...wasn't really happy with sound. Found out that my right passenger door woofer wasn't playing. That usually helps when your speakers play when asked to. Easy fix. Removed panel, and speaker, cut a slit in the baffle and ran the wire through the baffle instead of behind it. Rolled the window down to check for clearance. All good. Reinstalled and buttoned it up. Back to sounding decent. Still undecided about route to take...
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I just ordered a DSP. I found what I think is a good deal so I pulled the trigger on one. It's a Audiocontrol dm-608. If anyone has any feedback on this model or experience with it or other Audiocontrol DSP's, feel free to share. Brand new $400 shipped. I thought that was too good to pass up. Hopefully no regrets later.
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I hope so. He states that Audiocontrol sponsored the video, and also they probably sent him the DSP for free to review. So hopefully we are getting a good non-biased review.
With a DSP, I'm tempted to set up my system as active and get rid of my passive crossovers for at least the front speakers. But I'm going to hold off for now since I would need to add a second amp to accommodate the additional channels I would need. Hopefully this DSP takes care of my sound complaints. I can't imagine that it won't, so I'm looking forward to getting it and installing it. Wish me luck that Audiocontrol knows how to build a quality DSP and that I get it all figured out.
With a DSP, I'm tempted to set up my system as active and get rid of my passive crossovers for at least the front speakers. But I'm going to hold off for now since I would need to add a second amp to accommodate the additional channels I would need. Hopefully this DSP takes care of my sound complaints. I can't imagine that it won't, so I'm looking forward to getting it and installing it. Wish me luck that Audiocontrol knows how to build a quality DSP and that I get it all figured out.
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I think my sub amp is now on the fritz. 
Sub cuts-out and I've checked ALL wiring, continuity, everything. RCA's are tight, wires have continuity and are tight, the amp is NOT going into thermal, so it's the amp...or the amp...
Well I did get 12 years out of it. I suppose it did it's job.
Sub cuts-out and I've checked ALL wiring, continuity, everything. RCA's are tight, wires have continuity and are tight, the amp is NOT going into thermal, so it's the amp...or the amp...Well I did get 12 years out of it. I suppose it did it's job.
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I think my sub amp is now on the fritz. Sub cuts-out and I've checked ALL wiring, continuity, everything. RCA's are tight, wires have continuity and are tight, the amp is NOT going into thermal, so it's the amp...or the amp...
Well I did get 12 years out of it. I suppose it did it's job.
Sub cuts-out and I've checked ALL wiring, continuity, everything. RCA's are tight, wires have continuity and are tight, the amp is NOT going into thermal, so it's the amp...or the amp...Well I did get 12 years out of it. I suppose it did it's job.
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A little update. The 10W7 is staying (for now). Here's why. I was hearing a strange sound when the bass was hitting in certain freq ranges. About 80-90hz. It sounded like a "sizzle" or pressure escaping and reflecting of the back glass. I could hear it, my friends could not. Well since I found out that the culprit of my sub-intermittent issue was the pinched RCA, I replaced it with a much better and thicker RCA, I am able to really listen to it. I also noticed that my sub mounting hardware was not going all the way through the mounting surface (2" of MDF) but I had drilled holes to run some more permanent hardware. When I didn't use the hardware, I realized pressure was escaping past the mounting hardware creating that "sizzle" sound. The fix? Some butyl rope on the inside of the box to plug the holes. The finished result? Clean, clear, powerful bass. It sounds like I had originally intended. I do still have the desire to create an entirely new box though so I can include my capacitor, DSP (and Nitrous 
) which I realized I will need. I also just bought some 3.5" Dayton woofers to run in the factory location. I'm going to buy a 3-way crossover (more powerful than the Morel 2-ways) and run a true 3 way front component setup. So I just need some tweeter cups now. Stay tuned.
) which I realized I will need. I also just bought some 3.5" Dayton woofers to run in the factory location. I'm going to buy a 3-way crossover (more powerful than the Morel 2-ways) and run a true 3 way front component setup. So I just need some tweeter cups now. Stay tuned.
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UPDATE!!
Switched to a 3 way component set. Basically added 2 Dayton 4" mid-drivers and an Audiopipe 3 way crossover. All in all, it was right around $110 to upgrade. All I can say is it was WELL WORTH IT! The off axis orientation of the tweeters prior to the upgrade made the high sound muted. Now they're pointed right at me. What a difference! Oh yeah, that and the additional mid-drivers. Those things get after it. For such a cheap speaker, you'd be remiss not to buy one...or 4 LOL. So, initial impressions are it was exactly what I was missing. I'm happy at the way she sounds and I'm going to hold off on a DSP for now until I get some break in time on the setup. Overall, super excited.
Switched to a 3 way component set. Basically added 2 Dayton 4" mid-drivers and an Audiopipe 3 way crossover. All in all, it was right around $110 to upgrade. All I can say is it was WELL WORTH IT! The off axis orientation of the tweeters prior to the upgrade made the high sound muted. Now they're pointed right at me. What a difference! Oh yeah, that and the additional mid-drivers. Those things get after it. For such a cheap speaker, you'd be remiss not to buy one...or 4 LOL. So, initial impressions are it was exactly what I was missing. I'm happy at the way she sounds and I'm going to hold off on a DSP for now until I get some break in time on the setup. Overall, super excited.
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UPDATE!!
Switched to a 3 way component set. Basically added 2 Dayton 4" mid-drivers and an Audiopipe 3 way crossover. All in all, it was right around $110 to upgrade. All I can say is it was WELL WORTH IT! The off axis orientation of the tweeters prior to the upgrade made the high sound muted. Now they're pointed right at me. What a difference! Oh yeah, that and the additional mid-drivers. Those things get after it. For such a cheap speaker, you'd be remiss not to buy one...or 4 LOL. So, initial impressions are it was exactly what I was missing. I'm happy at the way she sounds and I'm going to hold off on a DSP for now until I get some break in time on the setup. Overall, super excited.
Switched to a 3 way component set. Basically added 2 Dayton 4" mid-drivers and an Audiopipe 3 way crossover. All in all, it was right around $110 to upgrade. All I can say is it was WELL WORTH IT! The off axis orientation of the tweeters prior to the upgrade made the high sound muted. Now they're pointed right at me. What a difference! Oh yeah, that and the additional mid-drivers. Those things get after it. For such a cheap speaker, you'd be remiss not to buy one...or 4 LOL. So, initial impressions are it was exactly what I was missing. I'm happy at the way she sounds and I'm going to hold off on a DSP for now until I get some break in time on the setup. Overall, super excited.
I have really enjoyed my new system, worth all the time, effort and money.
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Thanks man.
Another UPDATE:
Once the speakers have broken in...I realized I'm on the right path. The Morels have proven to be the weak link. The $25 Dayton's are shining well beyond the Morels. So, I'm going to replace the 6.5" woofer with another Dayton product and gong to replace the tweeters with some Audiofrog GB15's. Once that's done, I'm going to see how she sounds and then MAYYYYBE get a DSP.
Another UPDATE:
Once the speakers have broken in...I realized I'm on the right path. The Morels have proven to be the weak link. The $25 Dayton's are shining well beyond the Morels. So, I'm going to replace the 6.5" woofer with another Dayton product and gong to replace the tweeters with some Audiofrog GB15's. Once that's done, I'm going to see how she sounds and then MAYYYYBE get a DSP.
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Trying to research DSP's to try and find one that is user friendly for a newbie and cost effective can make your head spin. It might be easier to just go to another head unit brand. I was reading this article from carstereochick.
http://www.carstereochick.com/2018/0...alpine-review/
Towards the bottom she discusses the units with the best sound quality and mentions Kenwood and Alpine as being superior to other brands.
As far as DSP's on a budget, I saw the JL Audio TwK 88. It goes for about $430, but still so many questions about what the end result would be.
http://www.carstereochick.com/2018/0...alpine-review/
Towards the bottom she discusses the units with the best sound quality and mentions Kenwood and Alpine as being superior to other brands.
As far as DSP's on a budget, I saw the JL Audio TwK 88. It goes for about $430, but still so many questions about what the end result would be.
Damn! This article should be a sticky at the top. This was my experience to a tee!