Track day with pending rain/cold, Which tires???
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Don't change your brakes, leave on the street tires and be careful, work on your turn in points and smooth acceleration and braking. I have run my vette in the rain twice and both times I had fun, I was just sure to respect the track conditions.
#23
Well i have a track day at MSR cresson coming up tomorrow and Saturday. It is off and on rain today with rain in the forecast for the whole weekend. Sunday is only supposed to be up to 41 for a high so its never going to get warm on Sunday. Saturday is a high in the 60s.
I know rain is a good teacher, but am just wondering
I know rain is a good teacher, but am just wondering
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Well when i went to change my brake pads i noticed my front tires were a bit low on tread but should have been OKAY maybe, but then the inside was worn down to nearly the cords and it showed in a few places so i didn't go at all. Definitly not worth the risk. My buddy went the first day for two sessions but then left.
Sunday would have been about 40 degrees and raining all day. I wouldn't have minded the practice in the rain but since it was that cold I am okay having missed it.
Sunday would have been about 40 degrees and raining all day. I wouldn't have minded the practice in the rain but since it was that cold I am okay having missed it.
#25
Le Mans Master
Went up and visited with an instructor friend of mine, he said everyone was just tiptoeing around. The newer, more technical section of the 3.1 course had some grip but very little runoff. The older section had more room for runoff but was super slick (not his words ). Good news was (as of Saturday afternoon) no one had hurt anything and fairly few number of offs.
Have a good one,
Mike
Have a good one,
Mike
#27
Drifting
Well when i went to change my brake pads i noticed my front tires were a bit low on tread but should have been OKAY maybe, but then the inside was worn down to nearly the cords and it showed in a few places so i didn't go at all. Definitly not worth the risk. My buddy went the first day for two sessions but then left.
Sunday would have been about 40 degrees and raining all day. I wouldn't have minded the practice in the rain but since it was that cold I am okay having missed it.
Sunday would have been about 40 degrees and raining all day. I wouldn't have minded the practice in the rain but since it was that cold I am okay having missed it.
I will say the one thing I got out of Saturday was a better feel for correcting the car quickly once you feel it get loose. I was waiting way too long to correct the car once it started to "depart" from traction.
Sunday...I bailed. 41 degrees and a constant rain, overcast and miserable did not look like fun.
Jay
#28
Drifting
Went up and visited with an instructor friend of mine, he said everyone was just tiptoeing around. The newer, more technical section of the 3.1 course had some grip but very little runoff. The older section had more room for runoff but was super slick (not his words ). Good news was (as of Saturday afternoon) no one had hurt anything and fairly few number of offs.
Have a good one,
Mike
Have a good one,
Mike
I was tedious and tiresome. Worth the experience for one day, not two.
Jay
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I found running in the rain at Cresson last weekend a really useful learning experience since the car I used is fairly new to me and is also my daily driver. I just left my DD tires on and only had 2 times that the back end wanted to become unsettled. One entrance into rattlesnack was a little interesting and required some quick brake/throttle/brake footwork. I tend to be a little timid on corner entry speed anyway...something my instructor says we've got to work on some more when it's dry. It definitely required real throttle control, but was able to run almost the dry line on the 1.3 section of the course with a good amount of speed. After the second session on Saturday I learned how to set the car up to just drift through horseshoe on the 1.7 portion.
My husband gave up after 2 runs on Saturday because it was obvious he didn't have the tires to handle the conditions. What tires were you running on your Corvette that kept you on track? We're looking to purchase him some cold/wet tires before we head back in February.
My husband gave up after 2 runs on Saturday because it was obvious he didn't have the tires to handle the conditions. What tires were you running on your Corvette that kept you on track? We're looking to purchase him some cold/wet tires before we head back in February.
#31
Drifting
I found running in the rain at Cresson last weekend a really useful learning experience since the car I used is fairly new to me and is also my daily driver. I just left my DD tires on and only had 2 times that the back end wanted to become unsettled. One entrance into rattlesnack was a little interesting and required some quick brake/throttle/brake footwork. I tend to be a little timid on corner entry speed anyway...something my instructor says we've got to work on some more when it's dry. It definitely required real throttle control, but was able to run almost the dry line on the 1.3 section of the course with a good amount of speed. After the second session on Saturday I learned how to set the car up to just drift through horseshoe on the 1.7 portion.
My husband gave up after 2 runs on Saturday because it was obvious he didn't have the tires to handle the conditions. What tires were you running on your Corvette that kept you on track? We're looking to purchase him some cold/wet tires before we head back in February.
My husband gave up after 2 runs on Saturday because it was obvious he didn't have the tires to handle the conditions. What tires were you running on your Corvette that kept you on track? We're looking to purchase him some cold/wet tires before we head back in February.
I also run a square setup 18x10.5, 285s all around. You have to turn off the AC/TC when you do this.
Jay
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#32
Imagine racing a street bike on two tiny tires in the rain <- motoGP rainy days are
#33
Running in the rain sometimes forces me to be more adaptable......for example, sometimes I find more traction if I drive slightly off the line. It also makes me very aware of the advantages of driving smoothly (I tend to get spoiled with R-compound tires on dry tracks)......bad habits show up quickly!
#34
Melting Slicks
All I know is that now after it's return the car has never been faster or better driven. Even Lainey is super fast in it!! Who says Z06's aren't easy to drive?? LOL!! I am so just kidding! She is very capable in that car.
I am with him on the street tire suggestion.
#35
Le Mans Master
As my friend Joe Aquilante of Phoenix Performance likes to say, "Nothing good ever happens in the rain". If it's a race and there are points or money at stake, those are reasons to run in the rain. For an HPDE, it's all downside and not an enjoyable experience. I skip HPDE's when it rains. I know you've probably paid your entry fee, but in comparison to a crash, is it really worth it to run? Going slow and safe is boring and as you ramp up the speed the risk increases exponentially.
That's my opinion, anyway...
That's my opinion, anyway...
Well said!
I loved racing in the rain when it was for $$ but crazy when it is for fun and you are paying.
Jim