jntdysf

Looks like it got lost again. No longer available.

jntdysf

it's back:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...spagenameZWDVW

iniguy

The block obviously has been decked and then re-stamped.

skyman51

Birdball

If this guy has the detail from the engine build up, I bet you could look at the deck height data and see if it has really been decked. My guess is that the pistons would show a close to zero deck height if it has been decked in which case, someone stamped the numbers in. If it has not been decked then the pistons would be about .025" in the hole, and the numbers are either real, or he found a block with a blank pad and had it stamped to match.

How else could you fake a pad? Could you weld up the pad with cast welding rod and then have it decked back down flat by one of the broaching/ stamping companies? I think that would have shown up though on the "metalurgical analysis".

I do know one thing- someone did a beautifull job on the restoration and no doubt the car is worth a lot of money- but it is a downright crime if someone knowingly faked this car to be "matching numbers".

bb62

To me the engine is the lesser of the two issues that the owner has to "prove". the first is the big tank issue. All the publications out there from Nolan Adams to Mike Antonick show that only 2 1967 tanker cars were produced. And neither of those two were in L88 optioned vehicles. In fact, at one point one guy owned both of those cars (one was a 435HP and the other a 350HP).

People can argue all day long about whether or not this car may be one of the 20 L88 cars, but it is clear to me that by adding NO3, the tanker option, the car car unquestionably becomes a fake.

The worst part of this is that someone is bidding big bucks for what will become a huge dissapointment. The next owner will undoubtedly feel that he was taken. And yet the current owner wants $1.2 million...simply amazing.

65 Hardnoks

Let's just hope Tony Soprano dosen't buy the car and find out it's a fake.

redvtt

I got interested in this. When I read his claim the numbers were verified "as authentic", it wasn't by GM or any Corvette restoration individuals (and why not? For that kind of money ...). I wonder if this build even existed. I got 2 feelers out: 1) National Corvette Restorers Society, 2) Nolan Adams (thru a friend).

EDIT:

didn't see this: http://www.ncrs.org/forum/archive23.cgi/read/195121

Hal M

Could someone please tell me (in short detail) why this e-bay#4581027348 67 Corvette is biddding at $751,334.00 today.
Thankyou very much for the info!
Hal

ctjackster

short answer:

because one or more people (bidders) are under the impression that this is a 1967 L88, an extremely high performance engine and equipment production option of which only 20 were produced; alternatively, it might be that there is some shill bidding going on - it's ebay after all.

bb62

I wonder if there are people out there really stupid enough to not do enough basic research into this car to realize that it's a built car and casually bid over 3/4 of a million dollars. GM data clearly states that only 2 NO3 cars were produced and both of those cars are known. If the seller has a story that will change the accepted history then let's hear it.

I guess I agree with ctkackster that the bidding is probably "shill" bidding. The reserve still has not been met.

BackN70

Definately some shill bidding going on! But I will say that it will not sell, and the owner will try to use that auction to gain some ammunition power for the next time he trys to sell it saying, "I recieved bids north of 800k .. ."

Tim Gilmore

I know nothing about this car, but I do know of cars that have had a "virgin" block stamped and put into a car. One very expensive '67 L89 had a block prepared like this. It was an over the counter bare block that was never stamped from the factory. The owner found the block and had correct numbers/dates for his car stamped on it. He did not try to hide this, he advertised for years for the original block for his car. There are still "virgin" blocks out there.

Cliff63

Any way I could "short" the stock in this car?

MosportGreen66

For the life of me I cannot fathom spending an upwards of $700,000 on:

A) A clone.
B) A decked/ re-stamped motor.
and
C) A terribly misrepresented car.

The car is also on major forums: Here on the Corvette Forum, the NCRS Forum, and the Yenko.net Forum. If any bidders are for real, I cannot believe that they have not read the posts about this car. The last very interesting fact is that the only two Factory, Documented, and Known Big Tank 1967 Corvettes are a 435hp and a 350hp. How is it that a third Big Tank car comes along all of a sudden with an L-88 engine? Something doesn't seem right in this situation.

Just my opinion.

MosportGreen66

This came directly from the NCRS Forum. Thought this was very interesting.

"I also had a long talk with the owner of this car. He stated that it is NOT the original frame under the car that the old frame was totaled and he restamped an NOS frame. When I asked if he still had the old frame to verify the VIN he stated that he did not. He also stated that he put an entire front clip on this car. He has No paper work on the car - just wanted me to take his word on it. He also stated that it was a COPO car from Florida and sold in 68 to the 2nd owner who totaled it and pulled the engine for his boat. To many holes in his story for me. "

Patrick67

It's at $751K now, but it's still a $100K shy of this '69 Camaro back in August, but the auction ended early. It may happen to this one too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...QQcmdZViewItem

MosportGreen66

That '69 Camaro was an original documented ZL1.

Paul Borowski

...we'll probably see this @ Barrett-Jackson next year.

John Ulrich

Bidder Id's are hidden so who knows what's going on.
With that much money on the line, I'd hope the bidders have had an expert look it over!
Later,
JU