Modern Engine Recommendation for '58 C1 Restomod
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Modern Engine Recommendation for '58 C1 Restomod
Hello!
I recently was the lucky winner at an estate sale on a '58 C1, #419 off the line. Problem is the original 283 was swapped for a clunky 327 sometime in the 60s so I can't restore numbers matching and figured I would go the resto-mod route.
I'm looking for recommendations on the best engine to put in this thing with the goal of obviously having a bit of extra power but more worried about not messing up weight ratios, and definitely not trying to build a street racer. It also has a clunky 3-speed Muncie in it now and I would like to get the best transmission possible for my new best friend .
Really looking forward to joining the community! Any and all information on restoring this vehicle will be greatly appreciated.
-Ryan in KC
Color scheme it started out, and I'm taking it back to.
I recently was the lucky winner at an estate sale on a '58 C1, #419 off the line. Problem is the original 283 was swapped for a clunky 327 sometime in the 60s so I can't restore numbers matching and figured I would go the resto-mod route.
I'm looking for recommendations on the best engine to put in this thing with the goal of obviously having a bit of extra power but more worried about not messing up weight ratios, and definitely not trying to build a street racer. It also has a clunky 3-speed Muncie in it now and I would like to get the best transmission possible for my new best friend .
Really looking forward to joining the community! Any and all information on restoring this vehicle will be greatly appreciated.
-Ryan in KC
Color scheme it started out, and I'm taking it back to.
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Drifting
Congratulations!! If you going full restomod with chassis and modern drive train, then LS or LT1 would be tops on the list.
The 58 is absolutely stunning when done right, the 58 restomod we built was my all time favorite car I’ve ever owned.
Keep us updated....
Rob
The 58 is absolutely stunning when done right, the 58 restomod we built was my all time favorite car I’ve ever owned.
Keep us updated....
Rob
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Safety Car
First off welcome and very nice find. What is a modern engine, is it an LS, an LT1 or 4, or is it a nicely built small block built with today's technology, or even a 572". That's a question you alone will have to decide. I personally think any is a good choice. In my 66 GTO I have a stock LS1 with a 4L60e transmission. I have a 415" LS3 for my 61 I'm building again with a 4L60E. These are my choices but I would consider any correctly built engine to be a good option. If you are going the LS route it can be a little pricey. Some look down on the 90s version of the LT1 but with the opti spark swapped out for a distributor or a coil on plug setup it would make a great engine. Good luck and keep posting.
Last edited by Robert61; 07-22-2019 at 11:35 PM.
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Roger Walling (07-23-2019)
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There’s nothing wrong with a 327, one of the best engines made and can be made to look like a 283. If the engine is good and strong, I’d clean it up and go with it.
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Roger Walling (07-23-2019)
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Race Director
A properly built 327 is not clunky, and is nothing to sneeze at.
Though, if you want a boulevard cruiser with low end torque and good power, a nice LS motor with factory injection and ECU would be fine.
Doug
Though, if you want a boulevard cruiser with low end torque and good power, a nice LS motor with factory injection and ECU would be fine.
Doug
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Drifting
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The 327 is just as clunky as the 283, and is one of the finest engines GM ever built. You are incorrect in saying you can not restore the car to numbers matching. Just find a 283 with correct dates and HP designation.
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Le Mans Master
Something like this could be nice...
Good luck... GUSTO
Good luck... GUSTO
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kc58vette (07-23-2019)
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There are lots of choices out there, you need to decide how much money you want to spend. A complete restomod will run $30,000 plus. If you want just a new motor and trans, a 383 crate motor and Tremec 5-speed will cost about 7500. Rebuild the 327 for 3000, four speed another 1500. No matter what you decide it will always cost more than you originally think. It really boils down to what you want and how much you can spend!
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If you’re keeping the original frame, I’d build a 383 or 406 with 5 speed behind it. And dress it up to look like a 283.
If you’re going with a custom frame, an LS or LT would be a good choice.
If you’re going with a custom frame, an LS or LT would be a good choice.
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I don't know what the 'best' engine and 'best' transmission would be. Depends on how the car is to be used: static display in a museum, daily driver, drag racer, road racer, trailer queen, etc.
Have never heard of a 327 being described as 'clunky' in my 4+ decades of wrenching on cars......learn something every day!
Have never heard of a 327 being described as 'clunky' in my 4+ decades of wrenching on cars......learn something every day!
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So this one is the 250hp 327, and looks to have just been tossed in when the original owner dropped a valve on the 283. Also for some reason swapped the 4 speed for a 3-speed muncie. We did just change out the distributor to a new HEI and so I am going to try and get it all properly tuned before making a decision.
However, since I'm doing the restomod and not trying to save $ but rather have the best car, I'm thinking an LS is the way to go.
However, since I'm doing the restomod and not trying to save $ but rather have the best car, I'm thinking an LS is the way to go.
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First off welcome and very nice find. What is a modern engine, is it an LS, an LT1 or 4, or is it a nicely built small block built with today's technology, or even a 572". That's a question you alone will have to decide. I personally think any is a good choice. In my 66 GTO I have a stock LS1 with a 4L60e transmission. I have a 415" LS3 for my 61 I'm building again with a 4L60E. These are my choices but I would consider any correctly built engine to be a good option. If you are going the LS route it can be a little pricey. Some look down on the 90s version of the LT1 but with the opti spark swapped out for a distributor or a coil on plug setup it would make a great engine. Good luck and keep posting.
I will definitely keep posting, loving this community!
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Really?? I thought it had to be matching like to the VIN, not just correct dates? Is there a resource online i could enter my cars details and see about engines available that could make me NCRS compliant should i choose to go that route?
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Since it's not the original engine though, I just figured why not go with a new LS, 4/5 speed transmission, and upgrade the back-end if I am also plannig to switch to disc, power steering, etc...
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Hey words hurt!
"CLUNKY 327" WTH!
The word 'CLUNKY" sounds really close to "CRAPPY"!
That em r fghtn words!
Love the color! LS1 makes cheap power.
"CLUNKY 327" WTH!
The word 'CLUNKY" sounds really close to "CRAPPY"!
That em r fghtn words!
Love the color! LS1 makes cheap power.
Last edited by jimh_1962; 07-23-2019 at 01:51 PM.
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hahah! My 327 is a clunky one that was never properly cared for, the 327 is not itself a clunky engine. Just wanted to clarify
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