"like-show" quality.....that would make me very suspious....and this business about the NCRS Judge....

 

I am certain that the seller is a member of this forum and would be inclined to work with you to make sure you are happy. Give him a chance to make it right and if that does not work then you can get upset. I don't think any member of this board would want to be known as someone who would take advantage of another member. I hope everything works out

STW!

Platato

 

Yea, but on the buyers defense, when you take someones word when buying something and he screws you over by sending you crap you would get pretty upset too. No one has any morals any more, they dont care about what they sell you or do to you.....all they want is your money and it SUCKS!!!!!

 

 

Couldn't agree w/ you more "78"!

bobs77vet and AGVI,
I know these were just comments, but it wasn't like I purchased a new car and a floor mat was missing...these items were most likely pulled out of the trash and sent to me. There is no possible way that these would sell through a regular eBay auction. As stated in my original post, if I am screwed, I'm definitely hiding these in the box they came in when I put them out for trash - I wouldn't want anybody thinking that these were once in my car!

OK, now I'm going to see who is winning all of his auctions and forward them a link to this thread! (kidding...maybe!)

 

Looking at the pics I have to go along with Dr 76, that stuff is a far cry from show quality and the seller should refund him his money. And if he really wants to do the right thing, then he should refund him the shipping as well.

 

Neither Ebay or Paypal will do anything for you. All they care about is making money from the sale. Believe me I have gone through some rounds with both Ebay and Paypal and have gotten no where but I still make purchases on Ebay and I still use Paypal.

A word of advise to anyone using Paypal. Although you are set up with Paypal to use your checking account to pay for items don't do it! Make sure you have a back up source to use (your credit card) and use that to make all purchases. Never use your checking account if you want protection. In your case right now if you used your credit card paying through Paypal your card company would be standing up for you. They would of put this situation into dispute for you and took back the money paid by your credit card to the merchant until the situation was resolved. You would only have to prove to your credit card company as to what this seller advertised and sent pictures in for your dispute as to what you received and you would be having no problems right now. Using your checking account through Paypal gives you no rights at all no matter what they tell you and like I said it before I am going to say it again neither Ebay or Paypal gives a dam if you get ripped off but your credit card company will stand with you to the end.

When you use your credit card through Paypal a window always opens up on your computer screen where Paypal trys to talk you out of using your credit card. They tell you that you are protected just as well by not using it but this is all . You see they would rather you not use your credit card because they make more money by going directly into your checking account. No need to pay a percentage to a credit card company and Ebay who also owns Paypal comes out making more money and like all these Mega giant companys that is all they care about. They could care less about you.

Fred

 

I do a lot of buying on ebay and most merchants do NOT want negative feedback, selling on ebay is their bread and butter and reputation is everything. For the most part I have not had many problems, but when I do get an occassional dud, I write to the seller and express my dissapointment and in most cases they are coorporative. In one case I did give a negative feedback when the merchant would not cooperate, he was so upset he entered our case into a squaretrade dispute and after things were resloved to my satisfacton I had the negative feedback removed. I recently bought a car through ebay motors that was grossly misrepresented, and I was able to get 2,000.00 back from ebay's insurance co. But, it only covers, frame damage and transmission and engine problems. My mechanic was nice enough to be very creative! I recently bought from an ebay merchant door panels, carpet set, seat covers/foam, weatherstripping kit, and a few other things, and everything is top quality and an awesome price. The name is Wilcox Corvette. I also bought all new emblems and lettering through ebay from Jennings and recently rally wheels through rallywheelman(haven't gotten them yet). There are great deals to be had, but when you are not satisfied, you have to take action and let the seller know. Hope this helps.

Laurie

 

It Still Sucks!!!!!!!!!!! :d

 

Fred is EXACTLY right about E-Bay. Don't look for any help there.
Some things I do when buying from that service:
#1 Get a credit card that lets you put money on it to make purchases.
That way PayPal doesn't access your regular credit card and your credit rating doesn't get trashed if you have problems.

#2 DO NOT let them link to your checking or any other account!!!!! Once funds are pulled out of there THEY ARE GONE FOR GOOD!!!

#3 I set a dollar limit as far as how much I am willing to risk with E-Bay. Mine is $100. However, I did make a $750 purchase of a Tilt and Telescopic steering column on E-Bay. The seller (a regular business) was willing to take payment WITHOUT using the PayPal crapola and use a regular credit card. That way, if I ended up with junk, I had recourse through my credit card company.

#4 Check the ratings and how many transactions were done by buyer/seller. Not always effective, but ratings are the only guildelines available.

I've had ONE bad experience with buying something off E-bay. I bought an aluminum manifold that was described as being in "great shape", but one of the water fittings was permatexed in and when I took it off the threads in the mani were all but gone. Epoxy and a tap fixed that. But I don't call that "great shape".

As always when buying from a place like E-Bay...Caveat Emptor...buyer beware.

Dep

 

WOW, thanks to everyone for all this info...good stuff to know!

My PayPal receipt shows that my credit card was used as my "Back Up Funding Source", but the "(Primary) Funding Source" indicates my Checking Account, so I guess I need to update my Profile/Preferences @ PayPal, so Funding Source is ALWAYS credit card.

I e-mailed him late last night with a "polite" request to refund the purchase price, as I was very disappointed w/ the items received, and reminded him that my original request was NOT to have damaged goods (again, common sense should have come into play here!) I also included a few of the pics, just in case another employee was responsible and maybe he didn't even see the goods as package (doubtful, but possible I guess???)

He hasn't yet responded, but I will surely post when he does.

Thanks again to all!!!

 

This is how Paypal sets up your account to always go to your checking account to get the funds out first but you have a choice to do what you want them to do. Everytime you use Paypal you need to take the little dot out of the box showing the use of your checking account and move that little dot down into the box stating to use your credit card instead. Then hit the submit for payment. You need to do this for every transaction you use Paypal for otherwise it comes out of your checking account because that is what Paypal prefers so that they make more money on the transaction.

 

Thanks...I was looking thru my "Prifile" and not finding anything related.

I'll have to remember to select "Credit Card" for ALL future purchases.

Such a shame that we have to "protect" ourselves like this!

 

heres some words of wisdom from a 47 yr old who manages people for a living.....it doesn't matter if its the internet,at a bar or at work....speak about somebody as if they were standing right in front of you, and take your issues up with people directly....

 

Just a short story here about Ebay and Paypal protection that really doesn't exist. Last year in the month of May I purchased what was advertised on Ebay to be a Flannel Car Cover for my 67' Coupe. The seller on Ebay said in their advertisement that the flannel car covers he was selling were the type that car collectors used on there collector cars. The bidding started out at around $25.00 with maybe another $20.00 for shipping. Well I was pricing indoor flannel covers for my Vette and I found prices to be around $150 from one of the Corvette suppliers. I figured why not bid the minimum of $25 for the car cover on Ebay. I did and about a week later received it by way of UPS total $45.00 including shipping. As soon as I got it I opened the box and guess what I found? A cheap nylon car cover. I remember K-Mart selling these covers for about $15.00 years ago. I right away called the seller and told them that the cover wasn't flannel but a cheap nylon cover and I was told all sales where final and they wouldn't except it back but I sent it back anyway. In the mean time I contacted Ebay and Ebay said they couldn't do anything for me. I then contacted Paypal and told them of my problem. They also told me the same that they couldn't help me. Luckily I remembered that I used my credit card when paying through Paypal and you know what the credit card company either Visa or Mastercard put my item in dispute until they heard what I had to say and what the dealer had to say. In the mean time the dealer would not except the cover back by way of UPS. It must of come back and forth from New Jersey to Chicago, Ill 3 or 4 times when finally UPS gave up and told the dealer either take it back or UPS would destroy it. Well the dealer never took it back and it was now in the hands of UPS. About a month later I was credited the full amount of $45.00 by my credit card company.

The kicker is that I guess the seller complained to Ebay and Paypal. Paypal made contact with me and wanted to know why I didn't contact them first about my problem which I had already done instead of going to my credit card company with the problem. Unbelievable isn't it. All of a sudden Paypal wanted to help with this problem after the fact. On top of this I gave this seller a negative feedback on Ebay. He returned the favor and gave me a negative feedback my first and only one. I use to have 100% Positive Feedback prior to this on all my Ebay purchases. Now I have (1) negative feedback which I complained to Ebay about. Ebay just told me that once someone gives you a negative feedback you are stuck with it for life. This is one negative feedback I didn't deserve. The seller usamfg has plenty of negative feedback yet he still gets to sell on Ebay. Take a look for yourself at this link:
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQf...0QQsassZusamfg
Click on the amount of feedback he has and you will see that they already have 29 negative feedbacks for the last 12 months and 30 neutral feedbacks. They don't show what he has all together since he has been on Ebay. He probably has 500 by now.

 

What really sucks is that even w/ all those Negatives, he still has a 98.7 % Positive score. Right now, the most recent feedback is for something he sold but did not even have! How can this guy continue to sell on eBay? Well, I guess I know...eBay makes a profit from him, so he's OK in their book.

 

well, he has 29 negatives over the past 12 months but he also has >400 positives.... the most recent negative comment ? Well, that's how many companies work, even BestBuy or CompUSA advertize items that they don't have in their stores... it is annoying....

Anyway, did you get a response from that seller ? He may just agree to take the stuff back ...

 

a kid at my school did an ebay scam where he worded things weird and got people to buy what he advertised. the only problem was he was only advertising information.. and they never recieved any of the things they thought they were buying. Of course he got away with it and now ebay people everywhere are out a lot of money. He got about 12 grand before he stopped and then he bought a porsche. I would be pretty upset if someone scammed me like that.. my sister and a friend of mine have both had trouble with ebay by not recieving items. The items were both between 20-40 so they just let it slide... i'm sure thats how the guy has it planned out, that its a small enough item that you wont fuss about it and he gets 40$ transfered to his paypal everytime an auction ends.... its sad what some people do to others.

 

Since you went outside eBay to make the purchase, the only hope you have is in working with the seller. Since you came on here bashing him and his product before ever contacting him, I'd have to say, "Good luck."

You should have approached him first.

 

No, not yet. Only because it's the weekend am I giving him some time to respond. If I don't hear from him by tomorrow night (72 hours since I contacted him), I'll be persuing this further (if there's even any hope!)

I think a few of you are just skimming over these posts and don't understand the situation...

I SPECIFICALLY stated in my original e-mail to him, that I DID NOT want dry-rotted or damaged vinyl (again, goes w/o saying in my world, but I just put it in there). He sent me exactly what I DID NOT want. All the pieces are either ROTTED, TORN, or BOTH.

And just to see the mentality of this guy, here's his replies to 2 of his negative feedbacks:

Buyer: Promised good used parts, sold me broken parts, refused to refund or exchange

Reply by awwgdotnet: I went out of my way to dye his parts and this is what I get - LOL

Follow-up by Buyer: 2 housings were damaged, 3 lenses cracked and 4th had blue paint on it, liar.

So, since he'd dyed the parts for him, it should be OK that they were BROKEN ?


Buyer: Item was not for the application seller had in his ad, and refused to negotiate.

Reply by awwgdotnet: Item was exactly what I said it was - so why should I take a return?

Well, maybe since it wasn't what you advertised! Ya think???

OK, so now who is still on this guy's side?