I've seen his stuff up - and honestly the prices are way high for the used stuff he's selling.
He is a vette shop that obviously sells the used stuff that people have replaced there.
Sorry to hear you got much less than you bargained for. Good luck negotiating.

 

Hey,,,,,,, 'nuf said,,,,,,,Peace,,,,,Moosie

 

Just as expected, a 3rd graders answer from someone with a 3rd grade mentality:

"I'm sorry you were not happy with the items. I'm not really sure what you were expecting for $300. If you wanted the items I had on eBay, you should have paid the eBay prices instead of asking me for a "special deal". I sent what I had that I thought was suitable for a cheap driver. I can't issue a refund since I dyed the parts specifically for you. Sell them on eBay and you can probably get the money back. Sorry. M"

1) It was $325, not $300,
2) He determined the price AFTER receiving my request for "non-damaged" items.
3) There was no "special deal", he stated the items were non-negotiable...this was his normal prices.
4) He suggested dying them...was not my idea.
5) Sell them on Ebay....no, I have morals (unless people would really buy JUNK!...I would surely let them know up front!)

So, there is his reply...his opportunity to be a "big" person.

Now is it OK, that I BASHED him?????

 

Put them on ebay, but describe them accurately. Start the bidding at $1. You may get something back. As for the seller, thanks for the warning.

 

Good idea!!!
As long as you give an accurate description, I think your moral situation will be okay
You'd be surprised what people will buy on E-Bay. At least you might be able to recoup some of the money you spent.

Dep

 

Blast him in the feeback on ebay make it a nice long one, make sure you say something like " I know he is going to try and make it look like it is my fault but if anyone wants to see pics of this junk just email me "

 

Its a bummer thats happened to you. What a bastard.

Try not to let it get to you...

I agree with the good advice from the guys above ... Put the items on ebay and see what you get for them. and leave the idiot negative feedback..

Stay cool

 

I agree, put them on Ebay - these items are better than what I have (judging by your photos) - there will be somebody who's buying it. As long as you describe the items as they are you won't have problems there... there are many people out there who would be happy with these items for a driver....

 

You need to go back and read about this problem from the beginning. He purchased these items outside of a Ebay auction so he can't leave feedback for this seller.

I went and looked at the feedback already left for the seller from other Ebay auctions. He has some negative feedback where merchandise wasn't up to the expectations of the buyer. He also had some negative feedback that was withdrawn on a few occasions where both parties must of settled. The dealer probably took the merchandise back in exchange for a withdrawn negative feedback. I'm with forum member (DR'76). I feel he has gotten beat here. I don't feel he bashed this seller for no reason. I feel the seller misrepresents what he is selling at times. (DR'76) told the seller what he was looking for and what he wasn't going to be happy with before the sale. Its to bad a credit card wasn't used in this transaction by (DR'76). He would of been in good shape after explaining to the credit card company that he wasn't happy with the merchandise sent. He could of proved himself just by showing some of the negative feedback this seller got in a similiar circumstance. His credit card company would of withdrawn all money that was sent to the seller as long as DR'76 showed all the merchandise was sent back. A UPS shipping receipt would of been all he needed.

Having to try to resell this merchandise back on Ebay really isn't the answer here but it seems to be all that DR'76 will be able to do because he didn't protect himself when making this purchase. I feel for him because Ebay and Paypal are like a couple of Pirana. All they care about is the almighty dollar. They let plenty of sellers sell away on Ebay no matter how much negative feedback they get. If you are looking to them for help, forget about it because they will do nothing for you and all the agency's out there on the web are as useless as **** on a bull when it comes to complaining. One of the worse out there is the Better Business Bureau.

Fred

 

Thanks to all who have seen mine side...I appreciate the support! And even those who didn't, it's your right to have your opinion and all replies were appreciated!

Why I'm going to bother, I'm not sure, but I'm going to look into the Paypal "buyer protection" BS (I know it's a waste of time...just for Kicks & Grins I guess). I really feel strongly about what is quoted above...I specifically stated what WASN'T acceptable, and that's exactly what I got...there was NO question that I wouldn't be satisfied w/ the merchandise sent.

From now on ONLY those w/ 100% + feedback are getting anything from me, and it will DEFINITELY be w/ Credit Card backing instead of my checking account (damn, I wish I knew that earlier!).

If anything bizarre happens (like I get assistance from Paypal), I'll be sure to post the outcome.

Thanks again for the replies.

* If you seen anything you liked in my pics, look on Ebay in a few weeks...use the search word "Junk"!

 

I really hope you are able to get some help from Paypal but I wouldn't count on it. I don't know of anyone who was ever helped by Paypal or Ebay. The bad thing about making a complaint to either one is that you don't get to talk to a live person about your complaint unlike you would be able to do with customer service at your credit card company. You will have to email them and maybe in a day or two you will get a rediculous answer back from some (yo yo) making a decision on their own telling you that there isn't much that can be done for you. It's a shame and I hope you will be the first one to let us know that you were taken care of but like I said before and I will say it again. I doubt it. You will be smart to protect yourself with a credit card anytime you purchase something on Ebay or anywhere on the net especially when using Paypal. Trust me I know. Been there done that.

Fred

 

i've sold and bought a lot of stuff over the internet and i have gotton to the point i won't sell used stuff over the net. people just have way to varied an idea of what is fair/good/excellent. guns ( my other hobby ) are graded by strict NRA standards over what constitutes Good Fair etc but they are the only things i am aware off that do that. that at least gives you a solid standard and even then people have differnt opionons on whats what. seller is probably thinking he has been more then fair, buyer thinks he has been cheated. hard to see where there is going to be a middle ground.

 

I'm not much of a negotiator but I do know a few things.

First is to keep your eye on the prize. In this case the prize is to return the items and get a refund or partial refund.
Second is to realize who has the upper hand. In this case it quite obvious.
Third is to let the other party think they are getting the better end.

I don't know what you're plan of attack was but I can be reasonably sure that he was in no way going to give a complete refund. I would have first offered to return the items with a 25% or 33% restocking fee. Perhaps even more if he spent time and money on dying them. Getting most of you money back is better than getting nothing back.

 

With all the ebay references flying around in the post I didn't realize that it wasn't an ebay auction pardon me for the mistake

Just a word of advice, if a seller has any negative feedback I would be wary. The way this works is I give you a negative comment then you retaliate and give me a negative feedback. People have become reluctant to to give negative feedback because they don't want their own personal account looking bad. THis is why you see so many 100% or nearly 100% feedback scores.

I once won a set a pistons that were advertised to be available in standard bore and .020, 0.030 and 0.060 sizes. When I asked for the 0.020" pistons I got no reply, never did after the several attempts at contacting them. Oh well since I never paid them for the pistons I bought the pistons somewhere else. A couple of weeks later I look into my account and see in the feedback " Great ebayer, would do business with again !!" from the company that I never heard from in the emails

 

They liked the cut of your jib...whatever that means

Dep

 

The fact of the matter is, he didn't actually buy anything from me through eBay. I have about a 99% positive feedback rating as you can see here: http://stores.ebay.com/awwgdotnet ..He called me directly and said he was throwing together a cheap driver and asked if I would give him a deal on a bunch of used interior parts which I also needed to dye for him as well. I admit that the parts I sent were not great - but for $300, I gave him about $1200 worth of stuff if he would have bought reproductions. The fact that I had dyed them also meant that I could not take a return. In summary - I rarely give people the short end of the stick - but I can't please everyone all the time and I have little tolerance for people who want "special deals" outside of eBay. Thanks for reading..... M

 

so 300$ worth of junk is a good deal? Sorry man, don't want to take sides but for junk like that 300$ is a lot of money. Those parts are only worthy of the trash bin. Put otherwise, you have far more pleasure from his 300$ being in your pocket than he has being stuck with those parts. It would have been a lot more honest to just say "I can't hook you up with decent stuff for that price"

 

Sorry vettebay, but it sounds like the buyer stated up front that quality of parts that you sent would be unacceptable. You took his money with this understanding and sent unusable junk. I don't think you're going to get much sympathy here.

 

You should settle with the buyer. The excuse of "dying" them especially for him is not a legitmate reason. UNLESS they were dyed PURPLE? You could easily resale to someone else with that color interior. And...comparing pieces to prices of reproduction peices? Not even a legitamate defense...

 

In DR'76 original thread titled RIPPED-OFF...WHAT DO I DO??? DR'76 states that:
These were purchased thru his Ebay store, but it wasn't an eBay auction; just an outright sale.

His Ebay store website boasts of the good "like-show" quality of his products. I even stated in my original e-mail to him, that dry-rotted and unraveling vinyl would be UNACCEPTABLE (I really didn't think that was necessary...just common sense would indicate that!).

Vettebay,
I have been in the Automotive Parts Business 27 years now. They say the customer is always right and I know this isn't true on many occasions. I have eaten alot of merchandise in 27 years but I am still in business and I don't know of one customer who could say I never stood behind something I sold to that person. DR'76 states in his thread that he told you in what shape interior parts would be acceptable to him. I thought I read in another post that he didn't ask for you to dye the parts but you insisted. I think that the fair thing to do here is to return his money to him as long as he ships the merchandise back to you at his expense. I suggest this only so that you are compensated for something here and thats return shipping. You do this and you look good to the other Corvette Forum members here and you possibly get more business from some of us. You turn away from this and I can promise you that the forum members here won't forget. Its pretty simple, just do the right thing here for this member.

Fred