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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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or twin turbos. Go to streetfire.net, follow link to videos, search for "crazy 68". Now there's some drifting.
not sure if i would call that drifting
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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yeah because they're all japanese cars that do it
Not all of them...Rhys Millen has one of the new GTOs that he drifts, and there are Ford Focuses (converted to RWD) and Mustangs that compete in drift competitions. When I was at Barrett-Jackson this year, they had a display of all Ford vehicles drifting.

And I'd kinda have to agree with the guys: don't try drifting in a chrome bumper; get something like a 77+ Vette if you're gonna go for it. Also, reinforce the heck out of the rear end, stiffen up the suspension, and get some slicks to throw on the rear end.

As for drifting, it's basically racing that includes style points. You can be the second or third fastest driver in a competition, but if your drifts are better than the rest of the guys, you can take the win for the competition.

I was lucky enough to attend a D1 event out at Irwindale 2 years ago. It was pretty cool, and kinda creepy at the same time, when you're there by the track seeing these guys slide sideways around a corner at maybe 6" or less from the wall.

If you ARE interested, Bondurant offers a drift class out at Firebird Raceway in Phoenix; a wise investment before you go out to try and do it more seriously.

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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Sprzout
Not all of them...Rhys Millen has one of the new GTOs that he drifts, and there are Ford Focuses (converted to RWD) and Mustangs that compete in drift competitions. When I was at Barrett-Jackson this year, they had a display of all Ford vehicles drifting.

And I'd kinda have to agree with the guys: don't try drifting in a chrome bumper; get an older Vette if you're gonna go for it. Also, reinforce the heck out of the rear end, stiffen up the suspension, and get some slicks to throw on the rear end.

As for drifting, it's basically racing that includes style points. You can be the second or third fastest driver in a competition, but if your drifts are better than the rest of the guys, you can take the win for the competition.

I was lucky enough to attend a D1 event out at Irwindale 2 years ago. It was pretty cool, and kinda creepy at the same time, when you're there by the track seeing these guys slide sideways around a corner at maybe 6" or less from the wall.

If you ARE interested, Bondurant offers a drift class out at Firebird Raceway in Phoenix; a wise investment before you go out to try and do it more seriously.
did you not see the picture ?
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Corz
did you not see the picture ?

I had to go to the link in your previous post; for some reason Firefox blocked it. Hehe...Kinda cool to see the Mustang pull that; now if we can just see a Vette do it.
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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Pretty sure you gotta have an aluminum wing to do it though

Brings back memories of when I was younger, driving home from a night out

Don't forget 'yer plenty of decals too.
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:27 AM
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lol I know none of you believe me, but it really IS the wife who wants to drift it. I'm not into "competetive" driving, myself (I'm missing that lack of fear necessary for racing). I'm just the tech-head.

Anyhow, yea, I've been trying to sell her on a 240sx for weeks. But she really wants to see if it can be done in a c3 - and like I said, the 69 is her favorite. I'll continue to try to get her to at least try a later one though!

Thanks for the input - those of you who actually tried to answer

And of course, I'd appreciate anything else you guys come up with!
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ravn
lol I know none of you believe me, but it really IS the wife who wants to drift it. I'm not into "competetive" driving, myself (I'm missing that lack of fear necessary for racing). I'm just the tech-head.

Anyhow, yea, I've been trying to sell her on a 240sx for weeks. But she really wants to see if it can be done in a c3 - and like I said, the 69 is her favorite. I'll continue to try to get her to at least try a later one though!

Thanks for the input - those of you who actually tried to answer

And of course, I'd appreciate anything else you guys come up with!
So if your serious you'll want to go with a 5/6 link rear end or even a 9 inch ford. The spnning and side loads on the stock IRS would be maintenance intensive I think. You'll be looking at a steering update to R&P as well as driveline tuning.

With any cars of C3 vintage the chassis/driveline/cooling/electrical/saftey prep & upgrades could be in the 10's of thousands of dollars.

You would be better off finding a C3 set up for SCCA or Solo work as a starting platform rather than a stocker...

IMHO
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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thank you!

that was just the reply I needed! It convinced her to go with the 240 I've been suggesting all along
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 84rzv500r
So if your serious you'll want to go with a 5/6 link rear end or even a 9 inch ford. The spnning and side loads on the stock IRS would be maintenance intensive I think. You'll be looking at a steering update to R&P as well as driveline tuning.

With any cars of C3 vintage the chassis/driveline/cooling/electrical/saftey prep & upgrades could be in the 10's of thousands of dollars.

You would be better off finding a C3 set up for SCCA or Solo work as a starting platform rather than a stocker...

IMHO
I disagree. I think you could take a stock C3 out and drift.

Are you saying the C3 can't take the beating, but a crummy little *** car can?
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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put some cheap 225 tires on the back....you'll be drifting in no time
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by turtlevette
I disagree. I think you could take a stock C3 out and drift.

Are you saying the C3 can't take the beating, but a crummy little *** car can?
You're perfectly welcome to disagree

Thats not what I thought I said. I'm saying that before you take any (Read Unknown C3) that you may purchase for such use you may want to go over it as one would likely do before engaging in performance activities.

Just to be practical about this the newest C3's are nearing 25 years old. A number of potentially fatal mechanical difficulties could exist.

A zero timed C3 rear end would perform flawlessly. I would expect to see accellerated wear on rear end components. A typical worn one would be tossing parts in no time with that type of use. My suggestion about beefing up the rear end was directed at that point. Finally my obsevations of Drifting to this point seem to indicate that these cas are modified to a level commesurate with prepared class solo or roadracing

Again, IMHO
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Drifting is the only way to have fun in a car that does not have enough power to have fun going STRAIGHT !

V-8s is for HotRods....RICE is for WEDDINGS !
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Here is a video of a C3 Drifting...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...vette+drifting
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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I love that video
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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I saw a drifting exhibition recently with a friend of mine. I'm pretty certain the cars have no rear brakes, an extensive bias for the fronts or line locks for the front. Also the alignment for the rear wheels looks very wrong (or right if you do not want traction). I'm sure you could do this to a C3.

When we were standing there watching, my friend said "What are they doing", I replied "Drifting". He said "What's drifting", I said "It's a form of racing cooked up by tire companies". I think Toyo was the sponsor.
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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C3 can be drifted just fine.

I have been using active power induced and controlled 4 wheel steering (drifting) for over 30 years and 143,000 miles!!!!
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fotyfobravo
Drifting is the only way to have fun in a car that does not have enough power to have fun going STRAIGHT !

V-8s is for HotRods....RICE is for WEDDINGS !

there's an arrogant statement if I ever saw one before.

you do know it takes power to get the tires to spin right
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Originally Posted by 84rzv500r
A number of potentially fatal mechanical difficulties could exist.
This forum is full of worry warts. All cars are going to have fatal mechanical difficulties. I've seen aluminum suspension components fail in the newer cars sending them into walls. The guys doing DE events are busting rearends and trannys and blowing up engines in their newer C5s like their going through toilet paper.

I'd like to see more C3s being campaigned in autocross and on road courses. Drifting works too. We have the reputation of being **** retentive wienies who are more concerned with what wax to use than doing anything serious. Go check out the autocross/roadrace section. All C4 and c5 maybe 2 C3 people there. They don't even consider the C3 a real sports car over there.

Hey, but if this forum has taught me anything, i know 100 ways to preserve a frame to last 300 years. Woo hoo...

Edit: I forgot to tell you my point of my rantings.

Lets don't discourage anybody from putting a C3 on the track.

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Originally Posted by turtlevette
This forum is full of worry warts. All cars are going to have fatal mechanical difficulties. I've seen aluminum suspension components fail in the newer cars sending them into walls. The guys doing DE events are busting rearends and trannys and blowing up engines in their newer C5s like their going through toilet paper.

I'd like to see more C3s being campaigned in autocross and on road courses. Drifting works too. We have the reputation of being **** retentive wienies who are more concerned with what wax to use than doing anything serious. Go check out the autocross/roadrace section. All C4 and c5 maybe 2 C3 people there. They don't even consider the C3 a real sports car over there.

Hey, but if this forum has taught me anything, i know 100 ways to preserve a frame to last 300 years. Woo hoo...

Edit: I forgot to tell you my point of my rantings.

Lets don't discourage anybody from putting a C3 on the track.
Not trying to discourage at all, just trying to be practical.

So let me get this straight you would buy an unknown 68 corvette and take it straight to the track or encourage someone else to without going over it to see that it was mechanically safe to participate in a competition event. I dont rely on a tech inspector at the track to account for the condition of my ride.

I spend a fair bit of time on the track on two wheels, and I plan to take my corvette to the local drag strip on occasion, and run a few solo events after I've finished going over it. I've long since retired from roadracing but I do enjoy lapping days where I can safely (read not a worry wart) enjoy improving my riding/driving skills.

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Originally Posted by 84rzv500r
Not trying to discourage at all, just trying to be practical.

So let me get this straight you would buy an unknown 68 corvette and take it straight to the track or encourage someone else to without going over it to see that it was mechanically safe to participate in a competition event.
Yep. A quick look over and then drive it around for a bit. A good driver can pretty much tell if the car is solid. Its not like you are hitting super high speeds in the drifting. A good driver is in touch with his car and knows when to pit if something don't feel right.

That is a far cry from rebuilding the whole rear end or putting a Ford 9" tractor axle in the damn thing. Where do you guys come up with this stuff?

Less worry warting time.....more seat time. Get out there.
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