I posted my corvette for sale on Craigslist and I got this guy named Carlo from Belgium that wants to buy it. Do you think it's a scam?
Here's some of the things he said in his emails...

"I’m from belgium, but we do import of US cars
We ship the cars from Hayward ( inter global logistics )
If I can buy this car is it one for my wife and not for sale, but I think is it not that when the car is from the bank that you must him a new pink slip ask?"

"Well we live in Belgium and one or two times a year we come to California – Hayward for buying cars and pick-ups , you can ask by inter global logistics after Carlo and Paul from Belgium ( ask Gabriel ) what we do 510-940-7447 its in 201 C Street Unit B Hayward 5 iglco@yahoo.com
If I want to buy the car then ask I you that you drive the car to him, he pay you ( I send money to him) and you send the pink slip to him, he can do all the paperwork, you are save and I ‘m save for to make a good deal
Just I have to wait off money here , there is a buyer off are pick-up and they must pay us, then I can buy"

I called Gabriel in Hayward to verify what Carlo told me and he said he does talk to Carlo from Belgium and ships cars for him.

I'm still uncertain about this though. I've read about scams on Craigslist where the shipper is part of the scam. I don't know...hmmmmm.

Any opinions about this?

 

Just take your car now to the pier and put a brick on the gas pedal and let it go over, its the same thing as the mess your going to get into.
Tell these people to hand you cash only for just the amount you want, hand them the title and you walk away, if they don't agree then there loss.

 

If you have cash in hand (NOT a cashier's check), then sell it to him. That will not happen. Scam alert.

 

Cash has a way of being the equalizer in these types of scams... I mean deals.

Talk about a cash and carry deal and she what excusses you get. That will tell the whole story.

 

 

It is sometimes hard for us international enthusiasts to buy cars because of the scams, and it doesn't help that his english is bad.
If he is organising for the shipper to pay you cash, what is the problem?

From his email, it sounds like he is selling something first and wants you to wait so he can pay you. Ask for a cash deposit (non refundable) to hold it until he can pay you and give him a deadline that the transaction must be complete by.

 

Cash talk......BS walk..... Like RHD said. Get a csh dep.. or get all cash.. They will walk.....Take it from experiance. I Was selling a Ghia and everyone wanted to send me a cashier check....Forget it...I told everyone Cash upfront....Otherwise forget it.

 

If you get Cash, or a local check and go to their bank and cash it. Then give up the title. Don't sound like the typical scam. The deposit and deadline sound like the way to go.

 

If you get scammed by "Carlo" [in Belgium], to whom do you complain? U.S. police can't do anything to Carlo until he comes to the States....the Belgium police know Carlo....

 

THe overseas scam is usually a cheque. The cheque clears your bank and you give the guy your car. You think that the bank has said the cheque is good. What your bank really does is a basic check to see if the funds are available in the account the cheque was written on.

It usually takes a month or more before the owner of the account realizes that someone forged a cheque on his account. The car is long gone and now you have the police on your door looking for the person that forged the cheque and the bank has taken the money back and frozen your account

 

If you know for a fact that the Belgium police "know" Carlo post details or PM MarcusK. Don't just throw it out there.....
For all we know he might be very legit.
And whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

I have been scammed on parts by US citizens!
Shock! Horror!
I will still source my parts from the US as it is the only place to get Corvette (and Bonneville) parts and cars.

 

Get CASH... Nothing else will do.

 

I've done some overseas business buying used military turbine engines and MotorHead's got it nailed - just because you deposit a check and it clears doesn't mean you have the money.

Cash or wire transfer for the full amount only and with a clear contract for sale. From the email, sounds like you deal with the shipper and he deals with the buyer - if that's the case, there's no reason you can't do the full deal in the US.

Avoid foreign entanglements.
President George Washington (not the Bush guy)

 

Two names associated with that tele#

Inter Global Logistics Hayward Gabriel Cunich 510-940-7447 iglco@yahoo.com
Inter Global Logistics Hayward Stephanie Cunich 510-940-7447 iglco@yahoo.com

 

Not A Scam!!!! Take The Deal!!!! I Bet He'll Throw In A Few Extra Thousand Just For Your Troubles!!! Easy Money!!!!


Not!!!!

Run!!!

 

Classic scam here. They are not interested in your car, they're interested in your money. Basically what's going to happen is they're going to want to pay you more for the car than you're asking, then "after the check clears" you give them back the difference. The check will be from one person, the person you wire the difference to will be another. Usually they'll say someone owes them money and rather than having that person pay them, they can just pay you, and you give the difference back to the buyer. The problem is, there is no other person, there is no guy in belgium, there is no one but Gabriel. And they'll be very sure to make sure you feel "safe" in that you don't have to give them the car for several days/weeks.

Because they don't WANT the car. Eventually their "check" will bounce, even though it will appear to clear at first, and the money will come back out of your account. You'll have lost the "extra" that was in the check.

If I were in your situation I would call your local FBI field office and let them finish the deal, they love doing stuff like this.

Also, check this page out - the original page is gone but the cache is still on Google. It's about this gal who started fighting back against these scammers, this is a link to her first one showing how she screwed with them for a while. Pay attention to the emails though, because the wording and everything sounds EXACTLY like the one you received...

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=1&gl=us

 

sounds like the shipper is paying you for the car.
obviously you only take CASH and make sure the bills are real.
if you dont want to risk that you can do a cash wire transfer.

i sold my 69 superbee to a muscle car dealer in sweden 2 years ago and it went completely smooth. i opened an extra checking just for this transaction and he wired the money directly from his bank to mine for a $20 fee which he paid.
by doing the wire transfer the money is guaranteed in your account as verified by the bank and cant be withdrawn by anyone but you. once the money hit my account and the bank cleared it i transferred it to my main account and closed out the other one.

if this guy has truly been buying cars then he has had to have used wire trasnfers besides cash payments.

 

To our foreign C3 friends.... The issue is not that overseas C3-buyers are not trustworthy--only that you can't protect yourself from out-of-country scam artists. As said above by our Aussie buddy....they see scams from the U.S. Yes, and to you, that's out-of-country. Same issue..same problem. Difficult to prevent a scam with an oversea's buyer. It can be done, but you really need to know what you're doing.

 

Personally, I don't see any problem as long as you deal in cash.
It's just 40 miles drive to Hayward from San jose, and you can be handed CASH over there in exchange of a car and title.. Simple.

 

HAHAHA funny.

Want to read bout some more fun....

http://thescambaiter.com/

The man gets these fools to do loads of funny stuff.