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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Here's a car I have an eye on... not rusty, needs paint, but looks fairly nice:

1970 Corvette Stingray - Needs paint and transmission rebuilt.
Rebuilt New 430 HP Chevy SB 350 4 bolt engine, new 650 4 barrel holly carb.
New exhaust system, new carpet and seat cushions and leather seats and door panels.
New brake calipers all around. Front end all redone.
P/S, P/B, P/W
New battery
Registered and insured
Not numbers matching engine

What's it worth please? Looking for my first C3!

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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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hard telling. Got pictures?????
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Hmmm...dunno if I can post pics. It's green (ugh) and paint coming off headlight covers. Needs paint, as it says. Let me see what I can do re: pix.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Here's a couple of pictures:

http://www.k5mo.com/Vette1.jpg
http://www.k5mo.com/Vette2.jpg
http://www.k5mo.com/Vette3.jpg

Im a C3 newbie (but not a car n00b) and appreciate your input on value.
Stated as:

New brakes, new interior (leather) door panels, front end, crate engine. Needs tranny (t400)

Thanks! John
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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12-14k
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Paint, transmission. Those are 2 biggies. I'd try to get it at "project" pricing or keep looking.
$8k
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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I think the BIG question is the rust situation. A car like that with a bad frame, or even worse, a bad birdcage isn't worth too much. BUT, if it's solid, it's the beginning of a nice Corvette.
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I asked about the rust. He said there's light rust under window molding, but frame is very solid with no significant rust.

Of course I'm fully aware "light" is a subjective term! :-) ...
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That term is particularly 'subjective' when it comes from the mouth of the seller! In other words, it has rust....it's up to you to find out how bad it is. The car is not in 'bad' shape, but it hasn't been maintained very well. It would take between $10-12K to make it a $25K car [plus all the work to get it there]. I wouldn't pay much over $12K for it 'as is'.
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That term is particularly 'subjective' when it comes from the mouth of the seller! In other words, it has rust....it's up to you to find out how bad it is. The car is not in 'bad' shape, but it hasn't been maintained very well. It would take between $10-12K to make it a $25K car [plus all the work to get it there]. I wouldn't pay much over $12K for it 'as is'.

You "asked" about the rust? That's like people who say, "the seller thought the numbers matched."

This is all 100% your responsibility. You are talking about things that will dramatically affect the value.
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Hmmm, after looking at the pics:

Bad color, needs paint (wonder whats on the tag?), no real frame information.
Interior missing panels, gauge cluster broken, no horn cap, wrong steering wheel, needs plenty of $ in there...
Wrong motor, looks like it came with air but that is long gone, bad tranny.

All this looking at 3 pictures. $8k is too much.
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That little bit of rust under the windsheild frame is coming from the place that could be the most detrimental to the value of the car. I would have him pull of chrome and trim to see the frame of the windshield. If he objects, walk away. If that turns out to be minor, 12k give or take 10% would be the range to shoot for. It is a 70, the most rare of the C3 production. One day it might get a little more because of that, but it is still not an original. An unscrupulous seller can "fix" that. Don't get me started on that. Buy it for 12, put 12 into it, and you will have a nice car.
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer5869

You "asked" about the rust? That's like people who say, "the seller thought the numbers matched."
I asked about it, because it's several hours away and I haven't seen it in person yet! I fully expect to get dirty when/if I go see it....
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Take tools, flashlight, jack, at least 1 jack stand, and a blanket. Take your time, if you're serious about it. If the seller doesn't want you to open anything up [to check for rust, etc.], walk.
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Originally Posted by johnmb
Hmmm...dunno if I can post pics. It's green (ugh) and paint coming off headlight covers. Needs paint, as it says. Let me see what I can do re: pix.
Hey, what's wrong with Green?




Keep it the original color.
I just posted a thread last week with lots of pics of the undreneath of my 70 while up on a lift. Check it out, it may help you for when you look this one over.
Good luck, Glenn
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Originally Posted by dbeall1968
That little bit of rust under the windsheild frame is coming from the place that could be the most detrimental to the value of the car. I would have him pull of chrome and trim to see the frame of the windshield. If he objects, walk away. If that turns out to be minor, 12k give or take 10% would be the range to shoot for. It is a 70, the most rare of the C3 production. One day it might get a little more because of that, but it is still not an original. An unscrupulous seller can "fix" that. Don't get me started on that. Buy it for 12, put 12 into it, and you will have a nice car.
Isn't this a little optimistic? I still don't see buyers racing to the '70 just because they are more "rare" than the other bumper cars. I think "putting 12 into it" might also be optimistic. Interior parts, other parts not listed, a full paint job, a transmission, and as we all know lots more once you get the car apart. We just took my '69 apart for paint. I've been at this for decades and the bill is considerably higher than I planned. 12? Maybe not. But at the end of the day you will have a green coupe with the wrong motor, for $25ish if the costs dont climb (which they will). Sorry, pass. That's correct motor convertible money.

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I would also like to say that green is not bad! It's the color of money and it takes a lot of "Green" to have one of these babies......

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Hey, what's wrong with Green?



Looks like it would be a decent project car...mine started off a lot worse than that!
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The guy asked for specific input and opinions in buying a car. I'm pretty sure he didn't mean for the thread to get highjacked with endless pictures of people with green '70s who got their feelings hurt.

Nobody is picking on your cars. Green does not sell as well as other cars. Get over it. I can't believe the amount of bumper cars for sale I've looked at in the last couple years whose trim tag showed it used to be green.
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I certainly wouldn't walk away from a car because someone I don't really know with a different wallet in a different part of the world has a different value in mind.

You're not buying a used car when you buy a C3. You're buying something you will want to have a long term relationship with. If you're buying a vette to mindlessly kick around the summer in, buy a C4.

Otherwise, follow your gut. If it feels like too much to you, then it's too much.
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