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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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I don't know if anyone that depended on Krylon spray paint is aware but they have changed their products. For anyone that has depended on their #1613 for painting trim and getting that factory look, it is no longer available, at least in my area. They are changing all of their paints. The #1613 is now just satin and the #1601 Gloss black is just called Gloss. This paint goes on like all other cheap paints and does not dry even after sitting out in the sun for hours leaving finger marks when you try to handle it. If you want to see the old formula come back, i suggest you do as i did and contact the Krylon web site and give them your opinion.
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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Well, I just got an answer back from Krylon. The old formula is no longer available ( 1613 semi flat black and 1601 Gloss Black ) through retail stores due to government regulations. It will only be available through commercial suppliers such as Graingers and Fastenall. They said they were forced to change the formula which is sold to the general public, from lacquer to an alkyd ( which is CRAP ). Anyone that used the old formula for painting trims on your classic cars, good luck trying to find the old stuff. Once again our government has nothing better to do.
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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Thanks for the update.

At least I can still get it at Graingers .
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Is there anything that the EPA does not muck with? Cannot get Honda Polish for my bike anymore either as a result...
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bj1k
Well, I just got an answer back from Krylon. The old formula is no longer available ( 1613 semi flat black and 1601 Gloss Black ) through retail stores due to government regulations. It will only be available through commercial suppliers such as Graingers and Fastenall. They said they were forced to change the formula which is sold to the general public, from lacquer to an alkyd ( which is CRAP ). Anyone that used the old formula for painting trims on your classic cars, good luck trying to find the old stuff. Once again our government has nothing better to do.

you still have dupli color (sp?) well how ever its spelled there paint works great on trim and it looks good.
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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My favorite for small jobs is Rustoleum satin black # 7777, readily available at Lowes or Home Depot. Might give it a try.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 08:14 AM
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Default Krylon has changed...

I have been using Plasti-Kote # T-3 Hot Rod Black for years now. I have yet to find anything better. I might add here... it passes NCRS inspection.

You can use it on any blacked out areas of your car from wheels to chome rocker panel's to front door checks, grills, fire walls and undercarriage area's, etc...Try it, you will not be disappointed.

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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Last night I picked up the last 2 cans they had at Autozone, just to have them, and I noticed the replacement behind them was 51613.

Wonder how close it is to 1613?
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Well crap. Krylon 1613 was a staple for years in my garage. Why can't the Feds leave well enough alone?

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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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Boy don't you guys just love government regulation?

Hard to believe there are actually people who want them in charge of health care too.
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Yeah, I love the stuff. Thanks for the info. I'm going to go and see if I can find a bunch. Thanks for the Plasti-kote tip too!

Another approach, albiet more work but much higher quality, is to get a urethane or enamel single-stage black and add hardener (for durability) and flattening agent (for a nice satin look) and spray it out of your spray gun. You get a OEM look and paint that is much more durable than Krylon. It won't stain as easily from fluids and 'holds' it's look much, much longer. Resists chips better. But ya have to plan ahead and spray things in batches.

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My understanding is that #1613 is no longer availible at retail outlets like Walmart, K-Mart. BUT it is still availible at commercial outlets like Sherwin-Williams.
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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It's really hard to believe that the little bit of aromatic solvents in a can of paint is going to harm the environment. Just wait until the next shoe drops...I'll bet the EPA is really itching to ban the sale of lacquer thinner and acetone in hardware stores. I use quite a bit of lacquer thinner degreasing and removing old paint from car parts. I stripped down a frame to pretty much bare metal using a rotary wire brush followed up by a lot of paper towel rubs with lacquer thinner.
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I hate the vapor recovery hoses we have to use. They are such a hassle getting the hose nozzle into the fuel tank opening (of late model cars) and also of course they are a real PITA with the early C3 wide gas tank openings. Once again I can't believe they're really justified. Just to rebel, I've learned how to pull the vapor recovery hoses out of the gas tank opening and spill about 1/4 cup of gasoline after every tank fillup. (With gas flowing into the tank, just suddenly pull the hose nozzle out quickly and it'll dump at least a 1/4 cup of gasoline before it turns off.) So there EPA!
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 68/70Vette
.......... just suddenly pull the hose nozzle out quickly and it'll dump at least a 1/4 cup of gasoline before it turns off.) So there EPA!
Oh yeah, that will show them.
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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The new krylon is crap. It takes too long to dry.
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I'm glade I work for a industrial distributor I can get all the #1613
I need. We have 2890 cans in stock
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I'm glade I work for a industrial distributor I can get all the #1613
I need. We have 2890 cans in stock
Just enough to do one frame
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
My understanding is that #1613 is no longer availible at retail outlets like Walmart, K-Mart. BUT it is still availible at commercial outlets like Sherwin-Williams.
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No that sounds like our government hard at work.
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I hate the vapor recovery hoses we have to use. They are such a hassle getting the hose nozzle into the fuel tank opening (of late model cars) and also of course they are a real PITA with the early C3 wide gas tank openings. Once again I can't believe they're really justified. Just to rebel, I've learned how to pull the vapor recovery hoses out of the gas tank opening and spill about 1/4 cup of gasoline after every tank fillup. (With gas flowing into the tank, just suddenly pull the hose nozzle out quickly and it'll dump at least a 1/4 cup of gasoline before it turns off.) So there EPA!
Doesn't that get gasoline all over your rear deck? Before the paint job my 69 was stained from dribbled gasoline on the rear deck. If you want to spill gasoline, try pumping gas into a vinatage Mustang with one of those CA vapor recovery nozzles. It spills more gas on the ground than you get in the tank. Because of the strong spring in the vapor nozzle you have to stand behind the Stang and push the nozzle into the car with your knee while trying to find a position for the nozzle that doesn't 1) shut off constantly and 2) burp gasoline all over the tail light panel, rear bumper and rear valance while 3) watching out for your shoes (you're usually standing in a puddle of gasoline). Great for the paint, great for the shoes, great for the smell of gas in the car (on your shoes) afterward and, most importantly, great for the environment. Hey, let's do turn over our health care system to the same idiots that brought us that fiasco!
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Originally Posted by RagTop69
Doesn't that get gasoline all over your rear deck? Before the paint job my 69 was stained from dribbled gasoline on the rear deck. If you want to spill gasoline, try pumping gas into a vinatage Mustang with one of those CA vapor recovery nozzles. It spills more gas on the ground than you get in the tank. Because of the strong spring in the vapor nozzle you have to stand behind the Stang and push the nozzle into the car with your knee while trying to find a position for the nozzle that doesn't 1) shut off constantly and 2) burp gasoline all over the tail light panel, rear bumper and rear valance while 3) watching out for your shoes (you're usually standing in a puddle of gasoline). Great for the paint, great for the shoes, great for the smell of gas in the car (on your shoes) afterward and, most importantly, great for the environment. Hey, let's do turn over our health care system to the same idiots that brought us that fiasco!
I like the way you think!
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