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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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The previous owner of my 70 had it repainted and painted over the trim tag (pretty thick I might add) on the door jam. I am pretty sure the codes are stamped on it and not written with ink or something, right? I was thinking of tapeing it off and trying to apply paint thinner to the tag to see if I can get it down to the metal so that I can read it. It has no build sheet or documentation and I was curious if nothing else to see what it says . Do you think paint thinner would work, or would I most likely eat up what is underneath and therefore should just leave it painted? all help appreciated.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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The trim tag is stamped quite deeply with the information so removal of the paint will not affect it.

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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Mask off the outer area very well (duct tape maybe?) and use some paint stripper to loosen all of the overpainting. It would take forever to erode it with paint thinner. Just purchase a 'paste' stripper (or thick gooey type) so it doesn't run on 'good' paint. Wipe away the junk and rinse thoroughly.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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can someone correct me if im wrong but- didn't some vettes come with tags painted or is that a dead give away of a repaint?
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 1nicecorvette
can someone correct me if im wrong but- didn't some vettes come with tags painted or is that a dead give away of a repaint?
No, the 63-82 tags were always stamped. The stamping was done from the back side and created very noticeably raised lettering.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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You must of been reading my mind (not hard to do ) My Trim tag is painted over as well. I'm glad I saw where 7T1vette said to use the paint stripper on the plate, cause I was going to but didnt want to mess up the plate with possible discoloration to the metal. I've seen a lot of tags on vettes for sale that have been sanded or some one has used steel wool on them and they look real bad. I did use the stripper on the blue certificate on the driver door and it worked fine.
I bought this stripper from oriellys in a spray can and sprayed the stripper on a rag then dabed it on the label and it removed the paint and didnt harm the label at all then cleaned it off and it still looks fine today. Be sure to wear gloves and a mask. & Thanks.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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You can also carefully remove the rivets/tag, clean it up and re-rivet. That's what I did when the car was painted.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Donnie,
Although Wattac2 is right, it's easy to get the tag off; if you're interested in the originality of your car I wouldn't change the pop rivets.
After looking at the engine pad and VIN tag, people like to see a trim tag that looks in every way as though its never been off the car.
I'd take the paint off with the tag in place. There's been lots of good suggestions on how to do it.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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I am pretty sure the trim tag was in place when the car was painted so it will have paint on it from the factory. Someone back me up here

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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 1nicecorvette
can someone correct me if im wrong but- didn't some vettes come with tags painted or is that a dead give away of a repaint?
The earlier C3s were painted before the tags were attached to the body, the later C3s were painted AFTER the tag was attached, so it depends on the year of your car.

I think the break point was '77 but am not sure at all.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Donnie,
Although Wattac2 is right, it's easy to get the tag off; if you're interested in the originality of your car I wouldn't change the pop rivets.
After looking at the engine pad and VIN tag, people like to see a trim tag that looks in every way as though its never been off the car.
I'd take the paint off with the tag in place. There's been lots of good suggestions on how to do it.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
The earlier C3s were painted before the tags were attached to the body, the later C3s were painted AFTER the tag was attached, so it depends on the year of your car.

I think the break point was '77 but am not sure at all.
Actually, trim tags were painted on all 68-81 St.Louis cars. Trim (and VIN) tags were installed before the final paint. VIN tags were taped off, but trim tags were not. As such, trim tags had a coat of paint on them, but since the tags were made of stainless and not prepped prior to painting, the paint often pealed off.

At Bowling Green the tags were put on after the paint process, so trim tags on 81-82 Bowling Green cars never had paint on them.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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I'm putting my money on Mike's reply.
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LYLE
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Me too! Old timers will tell you the trim tag station (early C3) was at the end of the paint lines and just before trim...so no paint on trim tags. As production increased in the mid-70's, engineers were pressed for more space and the trim tag station was moved between the two paint booths. So from about 75 on, we see trim tags with one coat of paint and no primer...which is why the paint peeled off. I learned the latter from an engineer who was a supervisor of the paint shop during the 70's.

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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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I vote un-painted too.
I FIRMLY believe that the 68-72 trim tags were not painted. The tags are stainless steel, machine stamped, and embossed from the back.
There may be factory over spray on them from 'touch-up' but they weren't on the body when it was painted. Honest!
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 09:02 AM
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Thank You all, I am heading to get some stripper today! I should see metal by this afternoon.
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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I don't have any of the earlier NCRS Judging manuals at home, but the 78-79 manual has similar information in it to what I posted. I'm sure what I posted is correct for 78-82. I have a rear clip from an 80 at my shop that was a low miles fire job and the trim tag clearly was painted. My 81 was bought new by me, it was built at Bowling Green in Oct. 81 and has an unpainted tag, this car is an unrestored NCRS top flight winner.

I usually judge one of the NCRS year groups between 68 & 82. Though I haven't been able to judge at an NCRS meet in about 2 years, I thought that NCRS wanted to see paint on the trim tags of 68-77's, also. I could be wrong on the pre 77 tags, the beer keeps killing more and more of the old brain cells!
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Hey Drizzle- I've had my '79 since it was built and here is a pic of my trim tag... it had a little paint on it from the factory that has almost all come off except on the rivet, but it was not completely covered with paint when I took delivery. Yellow is the original color and this is the original factory paint job.



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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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yeah my 79 has a painted tag too yet the cars paint and body are original.

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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 01:12 AM
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My copy of the "1968-1969 NCRS Judging Manual" says the tag (for those years) was unpainted stainless steel.

And, IMHO, my newly re-riveted tag looks just as good as the day it rolled off the line.

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