1970 4speed LS5
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1970 4speed LS5
Looking at a 1970 LS5 Corvette, and it's a 4sp
The Numbers match on the Block and the Tranny.
However no Broadcast sheet and no original Bill of sale.
Is that good enough to say it's an original numbers matching car?
What would the value be on a car like this?
Car drives, and looks great.
Interior mint, and had a body off 3yrs ago.
The Numbers match on the Block and the Tranny.
However no Broadcast sheet and no original Bill of sale.
Is that good enough to say it's an original numbers matching car?
What would the value be on a car like this?
Car drives, and looks great.
Interior mint, and had a body off 3yrs ago.
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Well, assuming that the numbers on the block and tranny match the VIN, then yes, it is numbers matching by some people's definition. Be aware though that that doesn't necessarily mean it is the original engine due to the proliferation of re-stamped blocks.
IMO, it would also have to have a correctly stamped and date coded rear end before I would call it a "numbers matching drivetrain", but not everyone feels this way. Others would not consider the car truly numbers matching unless the part numbers and date codes on dozens of other parts were correct, like distrib, heads, intake, carb, alternator etc.
How much is it worth? Is it coupe or convertible? What are the other options? Paint condition? Rust on frame or birdcage? More information would be required before I would want to put out a number.
IMO, it would also have to have a correctly stamped and date coded rear end before I would call it a "numbers matching drivetrain", but not everyone feels this way. Others would not consider the car truly numbers matching unless the part numbers and date codes on dozens of other parts were correct, like distrib, heads, intake, carb, alternator etc.
How much is it worth? Is it coupe or convertible? What are the other options? Paint condition? Rust on frame or birdcage? More information would be required before I would want to put out a number.
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He's asking $30000.00 CDN
Paint is excellent
Chassis underneath looks like brand new.
It has the original AM/FM
Power steering
Tilt steering
Power windows
Power Brakes
Power windows
So check the rear end code too..
What and where would I look for it on the car?
Is it like coded with two letters like a PQ or something?
I don't know if this means anything but
**The tach has the orange line start at 5000rpm and the redline start at 5250 or 5300rpm
Paint is excellent
Chassis underneath looks like brand new.
It has the original AM/FM
Power steering
Tilt steering
Power windows
Power Brakes
Power windows
So check the rear end code too..
What and where would I look for it on the car?
Is it like coded with two letters like a PQ or something?
I don't know if this means anything but
**The tach has the orange line start at 5000rpm and the redline start at 5250 or 5300rpm
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Coupe or convertible?
I am not an expert on rear end codes, so I think you would be better served searching here.
Edited to add this from a recent post by 427SIXPACK: Rear End...Date code Cast in drivers side of housing for the case of '63-'79. In straight axle '53 to '62 Corvettes, the identifier is stamped on the front right side. In the IRS, the assembly date is stamped in identifier on the bottom flange. Gear ratio Stamped in bottom flange as part of identifier as a letter code, such as AW.
I am not an expert on rear end codes, so I think you would be better served searching here.
Edited to add this from a recent post by 427SIXPACK: Rear End...Date code Cast in drivers side of housing for the case of '63-'79. In straight axle '53 to '62 Corvettes, the identifier is stamped on the front right side. In the IRS, the assembly date is stamped in identifier on the bottom flange. Gear ratio Stamped in bottom flange as part of identifier as a letter code, such as AW.
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IMHO, as long as its VIN matches the engine's and tranny's stamped numbers, then IT IS numbers matching, never mind the build sheet, bill of sale, POP ... etc. And as far as the "re-stamping" job is concerned, it could be done in any case, with documents or not, and the only way to verify that is by using some expert eyes to check it out, not by some old documents.
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Page 15 from my owner's manual for 1970 Corvette lists the following for tachometer details:
Engine Yellow Red
Base 5000-5300 5300-7000
L-46 5700-6000 6000-7000
LT-1 6300-6500 6500-7000
LS-5 5300-5600 5600-7000
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No Way.. Are you guys serious??
The tach is for a Base car?
Maybe they restamped the Block?
But to be sure.. Check the rear end code.
It's a coupe.
Here is the link from Autotrader here in canada.3
Guys take a look.
Let me knows what you think.
http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/detai...4&adid=7334381
The tach is for a Base car?
Maybe they restamped the Block?
But to be sure.. Check the rear end code.
It's a coupe.
Here is the link from Autotrader here in canada.3
Guys take a look.
Let me knows what you think.
http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/detai...4&adid=7334381
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It's also missing the aluminum expansion tank for the radiator.
Also the exhaust manifolds have plugged AIR holes, the original 70 LS5 did not use AIR.
Got the full tranny stamps? Is it an M20 or M21 4-spd?
Also the exhaust manifolds have plugged AIR holes, the original 70 LS5 did not use AIR.
Got the full tranny stamps? Is it an M20 or M21 4-spd?
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Hi A,
There is quite a long list of things to check ( sway bars, half-shafts, etc.) to see if this may have originally been a big block car.
It would be nice to start with a clear picture of the pad surface and stamped information.
The car LOOKS nice, but you need to know what you're actually spending your money on.
Regards,
Alan
There is quite a long list of things to check ( sway bars, half-shafts, etc.) to see if this may have originally been a big block car.
It would be nice to start with a clear picture of the pad surface and stamped information.
The car LOOKS nice, but you need to know what you're actually spending your money on.
Regards,
Alan
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WOW... See how great you guys are.!!!.. The more eyes the better..
See I forgot to look at the exhaust manifolds. Unreal.
More things uncovered.
So how would the sway bars/Half shafts look if it's a Big Block car.. Anything specific to look at?
See I forgot to look at the exhaust manifolds. Unreal.
More things uncovered.
So how would the sway bars/Half shafts look if it's a Big Block car.. Anything specific to look at?
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It is also missing the stickers for the top of the air cleaner. I would like to replace mine, but I can't find anyone making reproductions at this time. Of course, that kind of thing would not raise the paranoid meter nearly as much as the wrong tach....