Originally Posted by Mewn

I just can not keep quiet about this.



But sometimes you should...this topic is played out...but I will wing your queastions...

Just wanted to ask Bats a few questions about this picture.



I personally think it should read:

Shade Tree Corvette Owner.

You pointing that at me??? I don't think so...I not only would never rig a carb like that I am the one complaining about it...that was lame of you.


The EZ-Tie seems to be on there to keep the pin inside the throttle cable. Sometimes they get loose and fall out. Seems like the throttle cable would need to be replaced? Certainly not included in the cost of an engine build.

No "pin" The throttle cable has a clip type thing on the end that clips on a ball on the throttle arm, it is tight...the zip tie is just there making it look ugly and shade tree,

No, I didn't pay them to replace the throttle cable I DID pay them and asked them over and over to make the car fit and safe to drive.

Since you have no idea what we did or didn't agree to do not assume some engine build might include things others do not...you made yourself look a bit naive there.



The throttle spring is hooked to the Hose clamp. This is common among back yard mechanics. Especially when there is not a Throttle Return Spring bracket and associated hardware. I do not see a throttle return spring bracket. Do you not have one? Did you pay them for one?

The shops name wasn't back yard nor shade tree mechanics so I have no idea why they would rig the carb in that way,
I would never rig a carb that way...would you?

Where you try to blame me here not the shop for this rigging, you proved you really didn't read my many posts in this thread very well or you would have not made a fool of yourself you would have known I did have a throttle spring bracket on the engine and asked what became of it. in fact it would have been better to have ran the spring from the bottom of the throttle level back to the cable bracket that was there rather than shade tree it like this.

I bought a new throttle cable and bracket, not 1000.00 like yours but it works sweet and has a place to put the springs.


The fuel line elbow leading to the carb seems old and looks like it would be prone to leakage. I believe they use a crush-able copper gasket. Maybe an AN Fitting and some quality braided hose would be a good method of eliminating leaks. A old rubber hose and hose clamp seem dangerous to me unless you are going NCRS.. Especially with today's ethanol fuels.



well, you are right on there...almost...the banjo has some sort of paper "type" gaskets or perhaps old dry rubber but not copper, the fuel line piece was old and something they added, it is too big for the fitting and fuel line so the clamp is mashing it more that it should,

I replaced the old hose with a new piece of the right size and have the banjo sealed at the moment, I plan to buy a Demon carb.



The cheap chrome auto zone water necks are very prone to warping and leakage. Modern ones are CNC Billet and use o-rings. I had so many of those leak on me back in the day I used to double gasket them..
A used intake manifold can be warped slightly especially if it is old. They should be resurfaced at a machine shop at some point or replaced.

Never should it have left a shop with coolant leaks.
They bragged about that cheap shrome neck, Well an intake IS part of a rebuild and I offer to buy a new intake and he pressured this on me,
The hose was leaking at the water neck as was the intake bolt both easy fixes, done...



I also want to point out the fact if you went to a family owned shop stating that you are referred to them by a long time customer, explaining that you had limited funds and wanted to get this job done as cheap as possible, and did not provide them with the proper parts to fix your aging throttle/fuel delivery/coolant system, you would not be expecting the shop to be buying these parts for you for free?..

what does it matter who owns the shop...that was silly, we already know you didn't read my posts very well, but please do not be so asinine,
I never said do the job as cheap as you can....please do NOT make up things I never said.

I went to the shop my DAD sent me to telling them what I could buy a mail order crate 383 for,
I asked how much to install the crate engine when the shop owner promised to build me better for less,

Obviously I didn't tell them to do it with old junk parts, had you read my replies you would know I offered to buy new all the parts in question, the shop owner assured me his used parts were good, I did buy a new high torque starter a new flywheel , and up graded to a 140 amp alt, I was promised a Fluid damper I didnt get,
Building on a budget doesn't mean cheap or junk.


Just FYI I have around $1000.00 invested in my throttle cable, and brackets, my fuel delivery system and water neck.
I am sure you could get those parts for a fraction of the cost.. But for free? Doubt it.
I also cringe that you bring up the health card every time someone pins you down..
It seems to me that you want to outsource the build your car at great savings using someone elses reputation, but expect top of the line results and free parts. Then to attack them afterwards, seems down right despicable to me..

I am proud of you for bragging about how much you over paid on you goodies,

I never asked for any freebies so get off that trip would you?
If it makes you cringe and you want to throw that back at me that is despicable,
My health issues and limitations are part of my life and mine to deal with, sure they play a part in how I do things...get past it I have.

Again you have topped the charts of making an uninformed jackass out of yourself,
I never asked for or expected top of the line, and have stated that many times in this thread, I wanted something safe and sound to drive home and that carb rigging was at the bottom line unsafe even you admot that....
He rigged it that way so that is his reflection of his rep.
Many shops would have never let it leave that way....


Please, on the next step you take with this car, plan ahead and get the necessary parts first, and do it right. You are like the Siskel and Ebert of modified Corvettes on this forum. You are better then this. May I suggest that you consider which part of this fiasco was of your own doing, before insisting it was all due to the incompetence of the shop you chose.

Whew...did you read ANY of my many long winded replies...
I do not believe so with all the ignorant things you just stated, I have fixed almost ALL the shade tree crap,

None of this was my doing...besides being too trusting and too dumb to get details in witting.
I didn't rig the carb, I didn't promise me parts and no deliver, get a clue and 1/2 before you go scold people.


No hard feelings I hope, I do like reading your posts..


Cool.,,I dont have thin skin do you?..then that means you can take it just as well as you dish it out and this will end right here....very cool

Originally Posted by poor boy

With the health thing, some of us are in worse shape than others. I understand your questions but the builder provided the carburator. Would you want it on your car? Not trying to stir the crap, but without knowing the exact deal struck it's pretty hard to be judgemental, leads one to speculate.

I have to put a new engine in my Vette too because of an idiot transporter that picked a car up in Florida and then stored it in Northeast PA. for 2 weeks without even checking to see if it had anti-freeze in it. It ended up with a busted radiator and 2 horseshoe shaped cracks one on each side of the block. If that wasn't enough he took some high dollar, very hard to find louvers off the back of the car claiming they blew off and he just threw them away. Enough to swear out an arrest warrant in Illinois and a cheap set cost almost $500 so that throws it up in the felony range. Now to top it all off the guy shows up at my house with the car at 3 o'clock in the AM and wants me to sign off on the car when its pitch black outside and the car is black on top off it.

My whole point is that sometimes people do sell you the moon and give you the sewer. I priced a new 350/335 horse long block at Power Train Products for $1450 and since I didn't have a core to send back that added another $350 plus $200 for the install kit bringing the engine total to $2048 with tax aand shipping was included. My mechanic wanted 1455.69 for the install, so as I see it that leaves and extra $300which would buy a better carburator than the one in the picture.

Hope I didn't step on any toes, just my take on the deal.

Originally Posted by the13bats

well...the dead horses work, the thread ran its course, no one spoke up and said that was a "good" was to rig a carb....so perhaps this thread can be put to rest....

Originally Posted by poor boy