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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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This is probably a dumb question, but are all coupes (non-verts) T-Tops? In my search for a C3, I've seen them listed as Coupes, T-Tops, and Convertibles, and Roadsters. What's the difference between all these?

And do all non-verts have a removable rear window?

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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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From 68-82 they all the cars were either T-tops or convertibles. T-tops would be coupes, convertibles roadsters. I'm not certain what year covertibles stopped being offered, I think it was 76, the last year for the straight back window. Earlier cars were coupes or roadsters as well, but the coupes didn't have T-tops, they had a removable hardtop option.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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I think it was 75 for the last convertible and 72 for the last coupe with the pop out back window.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by damoroso
From 68-82 they all the cars were either T-tops or convertibles. T-tops would be coupes, convertibles roadsters. I'm not certain what year covertibles stopped being offered, I think it was 76, the last year for the straight back window. Earlier cars were coupes or roadsters as well, but the coupes didn't have T-tops, they had a removable hardtop option.
77 was the last year with straight back window.
I believe the term roadster meant there was no top at all.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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Hi,
I believe the coupes were called coupes with removable roof panels.
I don't remember anyone calling the roof panels t-tops until the popular Olds Cutlass and Buick Regal began having removable roof panels.
I don't see t-top mentioned in the 68-72 sales literature, AIM, or service literature.
Roadsters are cars with a folding cloth top and no wind-up side windows. If a roadster had side windows they were fastened in place.
53-54 Corvettes were roadsters. I believe they have a bag in the trunk to carry the windows in when not bolted in place.
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PS: When I think of t-tops I think of the velour interiors that appeared at about the same time. Sorry.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 01:09 PM
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I mainly see this on the for sale web sites. I see the Coupe and T-Top description used more or less equally. And once in a while Roadster.

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1971 Corvette Coupe for sale - $22500 -
1971 Corvette Convertible for sale - $45750 -
1971 Corvette Coupe for sale - $15500 - Cash
1971 Corvette T-Top for sale - $18500 - Cash
1971 Corvette T-Top for sale - $59995 - or best offer
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thread baron
I think it was 75 for the last convertible and 72 for the last coupe with the pop out back window.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Yeah that's right. 75 last vert, 72 last removable rear window

I know on options for later years glass roof panels is one, but I thought all the later ones had glass tops.
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68-82 coupes all had removable roof panels (aka t-tops)
68-82 standard removeable roof panels were body colour fibreglass
78-82 had optional glass removeable roof panels
68-75 available in convertible with optional hard top
68-72 coupes had removeable back window
68-77 coupes had flat back window (aka tunnel back)
78-82 coupes had the fastback style glass rear window
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I believe the story goes that the 68 was going to have a one piece removable roof panel. The engineers discovered that if the car wasn't parked on a perfectly level area, the panel would not come off very easy or at all. Hence, a redesign was ordered (2 removeable panels) and the coupes were not available for the first few months of the production run.

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Originally Posted by C6DuffMan
...are all coupes (non-verts) T-Tops?...
Yes. All C3s coupes have t-tops.

...Convertibles, and Roadsters. What's the difference between all these?...
A convertible has a folding top and roll up windows. True roadsters do not have roll up windows. The 53-55 models were roadsters and had side curtains for use when the top was up; everything since then has been a convertible.

...do all non-verts have a removable rear window?...
No. 68-72 only.

Technically, the term "t-top coupe" is redundant since all the coupes have t-tops.

Likewise a "non-vert" by definition, has to be a coupe.


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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Roadsters are cars with a folding cloth top and no wind-up side windows. If a roadster had side windows they were fastened in place.
53-54 Corvettes were roadsters. .
Learn something new every day. I always thought roadsters didn't have any top including the soft top. I had never bothered to ask anyone.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by milo30
Learn something new every day. I always thought roadsters didn't have any top including the soft top. I had never bothered to ask anyone.
Alan is correct. I had a 1962 MGA roadster 1600 MKII with side plastic/vinyl curtains that bolted on. But it did have a vinyl top and a tonneau cover. Aluminum hood and boot cover with plywood floors from the factory. Not to mention two 6V batteries behind the seats. Wish I had that car today....

Anyone remember a Stebro exhaust? Fart can of the 1960s. But we who could not afford V8s were the original cool (Dobie Gillis/Manard style).

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I've got the 72 with T-Top and the pop out back window, or I guess the coupe.
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Hi Paul,
I remember the name Stebro, but nothing else comes to mind.
When I was ready to get my first car in 1962, I looked at 3 cars... a MG TF, $1100; a Healy of some sort, $???; and a 55 BelAir convertable... I chose the Chevy because it was the cheapest...$525.
It was a REALLY nice car for the money a 17 year old could put together.
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi Paul,
I remember the name Stebro, but nothing else comes to mind.
When I was ready to get my first car in 1962, I looked at 3 cars... a MG TF, $1100; a Healy of some sort, $???; and a 55 BelAir convertable... I chose the Chevy because it was the cheapest...$525.
It was a REALLY nice car for the money a 17 year old could put together.
Regards,
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That was not my first car. It was a Morris Mini Minor 850 ($300.00) with rusted out floorboards. I had 2 x 4's across the frame to hold the seats in. No heater really. Just scraped the frost off inside of the windshield as I drove at -20*F. Try to explain that to a Police Officer today.....Or actually to myself. I can't.

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Regards a "Roadster":


Along with the no roll up side windows, I believe the typical "Roadster" also had no outside door handle...
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Originally Posted by KTKelly
Regards a "Roadster":


Along with the no roll up side windows, I believe the typical "Roadster" also had no outside door handle...
The MGA had a wire cable front-to-back inside the door for release. Just reach in and pull up.
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Originally Posted by KTKelly
...Along with the no roll up side windows, I believe the typical "Roadster" also had no outside door handle...
Could be. The 53-55s had no outside door handles.

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