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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 08:16 AM
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What are the benefits, if any of the composite rear spring??
For me it was weight saving and ride. My project went from being teeth rattling uncomfortable to smooth as silk. It handles the curves better. The old spring was heavy duty and on twisties, the rear end had a tendency to want to snap around. With the compo spring the car is more "in the road" as it were.

Bottom line: go for it. You won't regret it.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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But in actual practice, the change in bolt lenght, if done properly, isn't that significant enough that you'll get into trouble. Keep in mind, this rear suspension design has been around since the 1963 model year, without any major ride height adjustment issues....
Just depends how long you go with the bolt. You will be good with an 8" bolt. However, with a 10" bolt the spring end will be contacting the sidewall of the tire if you have 15" wheels and the bolt end will be dragging on the pavement if you have a flat tire.





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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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Just depends how long you go with the bolt. You will be good with an 8" bolt. However, with a 10" bolt the spring end will be contacting the sidewall of the tire if you have 15" wheels and the bolt end will be dragging on the pavement if you have a flat tire.





You have the bolt in upside down!!!
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
You have the bolt in upside down!!!
Hello Bubba! See Post 29 by paul 74.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 07:11 AM
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Hello Bubba! See Post 29 by paul 74.
Yeah??? All that proves is that you BOTH did it wrong!!







BTW, look at the FIRST pic in post 29. That's done correctly........
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
Yeah??? All that proves is that you BOTH did it wrong!!







BTW, look at the FIRST pic in post 29. That's done correctly........
I was showing the Bubba (wrong) version. The bolt head should be at the top.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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Kid Vette,

Thanks for the pics. I have often read about the 10" bolt problem but have never seen an example. Your post shows quite graphically the potential effects of using 10" bolts with 15" wheels.

Last edited by Paul L; Nov 23, 2011 at 08:43 AM.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
You have the bolt in upside down!!!
Originally Posted by leadfoot4
Yeah??? All that proves is that you BOTH did it wrong!!

BTW, look at the FIRST pic in post 29. That's done correctly........




Quick, contact GM and tell them that they also did it wrong!!! Surely they will reward you with 5% off everything or something...
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
You have the bolt in upside down!!!
My casual observation is that in the pics that show the blown tire, the nut is threaded up so high leaving me to conclude a much shorter bolt is all that is needed.

Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by kirt8548
My casual observation is that in the pics that show the blown tire, the nut is threaded up so high leaving me to conclude a much shorter bolt is all that is needed.

Am I missing something?
Nothing at all, and if you put the bolt in with the head at the bottom, you accomplish the same thing.
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Maybe you guys didn't notice the hole in the sidewall of the tire. Any ideas what may have caused that?

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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kirt8548
My casual observation is that in the pics that show the blown tire, the nut is threaded up so high leaving me to conclude a much shorter bolt is all that is needed.

Am I missing something?

This thread surely now HAS gone circular...
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kid Vette
Maybe you guys didn't notice the hole in the sidewall of the tire. Any ideas what may have caused that?

Were you in a particularly vigorous right hander by chance?

John
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Old Nov 25, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Default Stinkbug

Here's the stinkbug look with the #355 spring.

8" bolts came today in the mail....
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Old Nov 26, 2011 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by johnmb
Here's the stinkbug look with the #355 spring.

8" bolts came today in the mail....
WOW, that sits pretty high.

When I installed the VB&P spring in my wife's '79, I installed a 330# unit, per VB&P's recommendation. I hate to admit that I don't remember all the little details as well as I used to, so I can't say how long a bolt I used, but I'm really thinking that I kept the OE length bolts. I do remember using their 460# coils in the front, and cutting half a coil off them....

Any particular reason for the 355# spring in your car? Is is a big block car?
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
WOW, that sits pretty high.

When I installed the VB&P spring in my wife's '79, I installed a 330# unit, per VB&P's recommendation. I hate to admit that I don't remember all the little details as well as I used to, so I can't say how long a bolt I used, but I'm really thinking that I kept the OE length bolts. I do remember using their 460# coils in the front, and cutting half a coil off them....

Any particular reason for the 355# spring in your car? Is is a big block car?
Yes, it's a 454 car.... the ride is fine, it's just the increase in height that's unacceptable. Got the long bolts from VBP...hope to have time to swap them today

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Had an hour and swapped the bolts out today... made maybe 1/2"-> 1" difference. Not sure what to do now. I really don't want to put 50 lbs back in the car but perhaps that's the easiest.
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Old Nov 26, 2011 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by johnmb
Had an hour and swapped the bolts out today... made maybe 1/2"-> 1" difference. Not sure what to do now. I really don't want to put 50 lbs back in the car but perhaps that's the easiest.

I'd like to see the after pic of the right/rear quarter when you have a second. I'd also like to see the shot of the bolts too.

The original picture looks like mine did before I replaced my original steel spring. My steel spring was overspung because she was used/misused as a drag racer at one time in her life. That is obviously not your problem. does you car have the rest of the weight of a spare tire?
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Default Pictures--- it did lower it...some....

Here ya go:

The "after" and the "under"



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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 09:43 AM
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Hi

Looks like if you need even longer bolts.
The halfshafts should be horizontal when the car stands on its wheels.

VB&P also offers low arc springs, specially to eliminate this high tail issue.

Rgds. Günther
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