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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Looks like if you need even longer bolts.
The halfshafts should be horizontal when the car stands on its wheels.

VB&P also offers low arc springs, specially to eliminate this high tail issue.

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My first glance at the pics pointed me towards the same conclusion. However, first do you have a spare tire? I wonder if the additional 50' weight of a spare tire get you closer to the desired ride height.

If not, I believe that the longer bolt would possibly give you the desired results.

I'm waiting to install my 10" bolts only after my C5/C6 wheel/tire upgrade that I have planned as soon as someone purchases my 8"x15" chrome rally wheels (with spinners) and my Firestone Indy radials with about 450 miles on them.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by WESCH
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Looks like if you need even longer bolts.
The halfshafts should be horizontal when the car stands on its wheels.

VB&P also offers low arc springs, specially to eliminate this high tail issue.

Rgds. Günther


Several years ago I talked to VB&P and expressed my displeasure about the arc of a spring I bought there. It made no engineering sense to me that the stiff spring I bought had basically the same arc as the softer springs. We all know that a stiffer spring won't change its shape/arc as much as a soft spring when installed, and I thought it was both technically wrong and poor customer service to sell a product that wasn't built the way it should be, resulting in the customer spending additional funds to make it work (ie: by replacing the outer hanger bolts with longer substutes). To VB&P's credit, they offered to swap out my newly purchased spring for a correctly shaped "low arc" part. The low arc replacement was a quality piece and worked well on my car.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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I'm probably going to re-replace the spring.

I'm not willing to extend the bolts any longer, as they're already marginally long at the rim line.

I don't have a spare in the car at the time, but I don't think the 50 lbs would change much .. that IS a stout spring and it doesn't easily deflect.

John

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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 04:20 PM
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For comparison, does anyone have a pic they could post of the shorter spring, and/or the straighter spring?
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by johnmb
I'm probably going to re-replace the spring.

I'm not willing to extend the springs any longer, as they're already marginally long at the rim line.

I don't have a spare in the car at the time, but I don't think the 50 lbs would change much .. that IS a stout spring and it doesn't easily deflect.

John
Pure speculation but I'm wondering if that stabilizer bar is the culprit. It is a form of spring and might keep the composite from settling to a normal height.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
Pure speculation but I'm wondering if that stabilizer bar is the culprit. It is a form of spring and might keep the composite from settling to a normal height.
Shouldn't have an effect, becuuse in theory, the sway bar is "neutral" until cornering forces cause one side of the car to rise, relative to the other. At that point, the bar then tries to resist this force, and comes into play.
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
Shouldn't have an effect, becuuse in theory, the sway bar is "neutral" until cornering forces cause one side of the car to rise, relative to the other. At that point, the bar then tries to resist this force, and comes into play.
It was just a thought. I can't understand his problem. I have read of this with TRW springs but his looks like a VBP.
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Originally Posted by paul 74
It was just a thought. I can't understand his problem. I have read of this with TRW springs but his looks like a VBP.
I didn't realize that VB&P made their springs in different "arch rates", as "wesch" mentioned. But if they do, it appears that it's "jonhmb"s problem. As I previously mentioned, I put one of these springs on a '79 that my wife used to own, and I got the desired ride height without any major issues.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by johnmb
I'm probably going to re-replace the spring.

I'm not willing to extend the springs any longer, as they're already marginally long at the rim line.

I don't have a spare in the car at the time, but I don't think the 50 lbs would change much .. that IS a stout spring and it doesn't easily deflect.

John
I wish I could be more help to you. I have the TRW spring and my original steel spring was so stiff that I couldn't push down on the car in the rear at all. The ride improvement is so drastic and awesome that I couldn't be happier, even though like you my ride height is a little higher then I'd like.

At some point in the future I'll go with a VBP solution (adjustable) in the front and rear and this issue for me will be settled.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
Pure speculation but I'm wondering if that stabilizer bar is the culprit. It is a form of spring and might keep the composite from settling to a normal height.
I don't think so, though it's an idea.... it's not that stout, and it's not really loaded when the car is at rest.


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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by johnmb
I don't think so, though it's an idea.... it's not that stout, and it's not really loaded when the car is at rest.


John
Just unload it and see what happens. It looks like a GM-original 7/16" but it may be the source of your problem. Good luck. I am out of ideas and certainly do not advise 10" bolts.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
I didn't realize that VB&P made their springs in different "arch rates", as "wesch" mentioned. But if they do, it appears that it's "jonhmb"s problem. As I previously mentioned, I put one of these springs on a '79 that my wife used to own, and I got the desired ride height without any major issues.
I got mine from VB&P (380 lb. spring) and had no excess height issues. Mine is over 5 years old. It did not have excess arch before installing or after installation.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by johnmb
I'm probably going to re-replace the spring.

I'm not willing to extend the bolts any longer, as they're already marginally long at the rim line.

I don't have a spare in the car at the time, but I don't think the 50 lbs would change much .. that IS a stout spring and it doesn't easily deflect.

John
John,

Have you taken the car for a fifty mile drive? That might be all it needs to "settle" into a lower ride height. The stabiliser bar has no effect on ride height, don't even look there. Put the spare tyre in and go for a drive. Take a before and after photo with a ruler or tape measure in the gap so that we can see the results (if any!?!?).

Regards from Down Under.

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