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Racer
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dying
i am dying my headliners with corvette america primer and dye. They came out flat black it doesn,t seem like it matches should i clear coat them or will that be to much of a sheen.
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I have heard so many complaints about the spray-bomb "dye" ordered online. Either the color is too "flat", or it comes out splotchy (sp.?), or it won't stick well. But, I've never heard of anyone having a problem with spraying liquid SEM "ColorCoat" vinyl dye.
Sorry you're having problems. But, before you go with some "clear coat" (do they even make a clear dye?), I would suggest you buy some [liquid] SEM dye and reshoot it.
Sorry you're having problems. But, before you go with some "clear coat" (do they even make a clear dye?), I would suggest you buy some [liquid] SEM dye and reshoot it.
Melting Slicks
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From: Vero Beach FL
I have heard so many complaints about the spray-bomb "dye" ordered online. Either the color is too "flat", or it comes out splotchy (sp.?), or it won't stick well. But, I've never heard of anyone having a problem with spraying liquid SEM "ColorCoat" vinyl dye.
Sorry you're having problems. But, before you go with some "clear coat" (do they even make a clear dye?), I would suggest you buy some [liquid] SEM dye and reshoot it.
Sorry you're having problems. But, before you go with some "clear coat" (do they even make a clear dye?), I would suggest you buy some [liquid] SEM dye and reshoot it.
I have had bad results from the spray bombs being flat and being the incorrect color as well. 7T1 has been saying it for years "SEM" mixed at the paint store and he is not wrong. 
My second choice would that be SEM does make a black in a aerosol can that I would not be afraid of.
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I've used the duplicolor black with great results. It's been a while but here are the steps I took. Clean with dish washing soap- several times. I used pre (from Eastwood but you can use any silicone remover). Spray the tie coat ( adhesion promoter for plastic from duplicolor) two light coats followed by a heavy coat (wait -see instruction- a few minutes to tack). Do the same for the black coat. Notes: high humidity will cause the black into a milky foggy color. Too dry of a final coat or force drying (very warm day) will cause it to flatten.
These were my observations, others may have had other experiences.
Hope this helps
H
These were my observations, others may have had other experiences.
Hope this helps
H
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DupliColor black is not DYE...it's PAINT. Now, dye is in the 'paint' family...but it's not paint...it's DYE.
One DYES one's interior parts. If one decides to 'paint' them, you will usually lose some of the surface detail because paint is thicker than dye and it will fill up the grain. Paint will also peel and chip. DYE bonds with the plastic OR with other colors of DYE that may already be on the part. You can DYE an interior part as many times...and with as many colors...as you like. (Try doing that with 'paint'.) And, if you paint an interior part, you can then DYE it later; but then the dye will NEVER stick to the part any better than PAINT.
Use PAINT if you want. Those that know will use DYE.
One DYES one's interior parts. If one decides to 'paint' them, you will usually lose some of the surface detail because paint is thicker than dye and it will fill up the grain. Paint will also peel and chip. DYE bonds with the plastic OR with other colors of DYE that may already be on the part. You can DYE an interior part as many times...and with as many colors...as you like. (Try doing that with 'paint'.) And, if you paint an interior part, you can then DYE it later; but then the dye will NEVER stick to the part any better than PAINT.
Use PAINT if you want. Those that know will use DYE.
Burning Brakes
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From: Oswego IL
The weather condition plays a big part in the finish. If it is too humid, the dye (paint) will dry flat and will blush or look cloudy. I would try a small test panel when there is not much humidity and see if that works for you.
Drifting
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From: Monson MA
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Here are a couple of pics of my intereior. Most pieces were dyed with CA dye in qt can that I put in my sprayer. I used the CA recommened primer. You might be able to pick out which was dyed and which was bought in red, but you can judge for yourself, the final results.
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From: No Where USA
DupliColor black is not DYE...it's PAINT. Now, dye is in the 'paint' family...but it's not paint...it's DYE.
One DYES one's interior parts. If one decides to 'paint' them, you will usually lose some of the surface detail because paint is thicker than dye and it will fill up the grain. Paint will also peel and chip. DYE bonds with the plastic OR with other colors of DYE that may already be on the part. You can DYE an interior part as many times...and with as many colors...as you like. (Try doing that with 'paint'.) And, if you paint an interior part, you can then DYE it later; but then the dye will NEVER stick to the part any better than PAINT.
Use PAINT if you want. Those that know will use DYE.
One DYES one's interior parts. If one decides to 'paint' them, you will usually lose some of the surface detail because paint is thicker than dye and it will fill up the grain. Paint will also peel and chip. DYE bonds with the plastic OR with other colors of DYE that may already be on the part. You can DYE an interior part as many times...and with as many colors...as you like. (Try doing that with 'paint'.) And, if you paint an interior part, you can then DYE it later; but then the dye will NEVER stick to the part any better than PAINT.
Use PAINT if you want. Those that know will use DYE.
I have used paint and it didn't fill the grain because I didn't put a ton on and it didn't peel because I prepped the surface. I have been restoring cars for over 30 years and never had that problem.
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From: Scottsdale Arizona
Temperature and humidity play a key role in the final finish. Not obvious why but it does. Try another couple of coats when the conditions are different.
Drifting
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From: Monson MA
The parts are flat in sheen and blotchy in coverage. I did receive my quarts yesterday. I will give feedback when done.
Melting Slicks
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I was forced to use spray laquer for my red 68 interior, probably 30 years ago, when I could not get dye other than "brick red", from the only vendor selling interior dye back then. It has not peeled but it has cracked on the sides of the soft shifter console.
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From: Concord North Carolina
Okay so I am going to have to redo the inside of my 75. My dad had just redone most of them (I believe because I found a receipt for SEM camel vinyl spray) but it is already scratching off. I'm thinking maybe he didn't have them cleaned good enough. I have almost all the pieces off now and I plan on starting to wash them and prep them. Can someone please tell me the steps I need to take so that the paint/dye will stick and look good again.. =)
Thanks guys
Thanks guys