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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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I did not port this, this is the way I bought it. Can you see where I can make any improvements? Is there too much material already removed to make the runners lean back 35 degrees??
Looks like that intake has been ported?, and yes there is a couple of areas that you can get a lil more flow, you can take A LIL off the top to get that angle back IT WILL INCREASE the velocity of the intake charge and you can knife edge the inlets ports and curve the sides in a lil. looks like that also has been painted inside? No big deal just curious? Another lil mod that will give you a lil more flow is use 2 gaskets on the injector tower you wont gain much but every lil thing helps. I did find out that the combined CFM on our tbi's are 596 NOT 550 as I was told, by raising the inj. tower you will gain about 3-4 CFM on each tb putting it at or a lil over 600 CFM. BTW you can modify your swirl plates/vanes to help a lil there also. ie:cutting them down SLIGHTLY and bendind them in SLIGHTLY, IMHO I would not remove them. if you want I got many pic's on my ph I could send them directly to you? btw what are the port size's on that intake? my # 937-301-8492 just text me request photos's and I'll send them right to you?
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 08:47 PM
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My fuel pump was replaced by the PO although I dont know if it was upgraded to the 85 unit. I will also bog when below a 1/4 tank, which I believe is just a characteristic of the set-up and doesn't pertain to the pump. I've heard o more than one 82 owner experiencing this problem. I never let it get below 8 gals and haven't had a problem since.
I never noticied any stumble or bog around a 1/4 tank? But that is normal driving NOT racing it around. But that does sound like a fuel starvation problem, somewhere?? The stock or 85 pump would'nt cause that problem I dont think? SSROADSTER has the answer keep a lil more gas in the tank
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Originally Posted by lance m p
Looks like that intake has been ported?, and yes there is a couple of areas that you can get a lil more flow, you can take A LIL off the top to get that angle back IT WILL INCREASE the velocity of the intake charge and you can knife edge the inlets ports and curve the sides in a lil. looks like that also has been painted inside? No big deal just curious? Another lil mod that will give you a lil more flow is use 2 gaskets on the injector tower you wont gain much but every lil thing helps. I did find out that the combined CFM on our tbi's are 596 NOT 550 as I was told, by raising the inj. tower you will gain about 3-4 CFM on each tb putting it at or a lil over 600 CFM. BTW you can modify your swirl plates/vanes to help a lil there also. ie:cutting them down SLIGHTLY and bendind them in SLIGHTLY, IMHO I would not remove them. if you want I got many pic's on my ph I could send them directly to you? btw what are the port size's on that intake? my # 937-301-8492 just text me request photos's and I'll send them right to you?
It's not painted, had it blasted. Text sent.
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May not make any difference, but I would smooth off the various raised bumps on the runners and base. Make everything smooth. Including the left over ridges from where the egr tunnel was. And, when I removed my egr tunnel, I filled in that open area between the one runner and the side wall. Filled in with epoxy. I dipped mine in a bucket of 50-50 water and muriatic acid to clean it up. Whoa what a bunch of gas fumes exploding. Moved away immediately. Made everything nice and clean inside. Then spray painted inside with high heat chrome paint just for kicks. Looked great. Probably all dirty'd up by now - 125,000 miles later.
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May not make any difference, but I would smooth off the various raised bumps on the runners and base. Make everything smooth. Including the left over ridges from where the egr tunnel was. And, when I removed my egr tunnel, I filled in that open area between the one runner and the side wall. Filled in with epoxy. I dipped mine in a bucket of 50-50 water and muriatic acid to clean it up. Whoa what a bunch of gas fumes exploding. Moved away immediately. Made everything nice and clean inside. Then spray painted inside with high heat chrome paint just for kicks. Looked great. Probably all dirty'd up by now - 125,000 miles later.
I started to do that last night with my dremel but destroyed several bits. Don't know what to use to for grinding and sanding?
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What kind of epoxy did you use for the EGR opening??
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Originally Posted by lance m p
OK, Im WELL aware of the limitations of the STOCK crossfire intake, however I have a race shop that allows me to use there flow bench. I first flow tested the stock intake, uderwhelming to say the least since the intake was designed to be used on a 305 cid engine. Well i was commetted to keep this car as close as stock as possible. I researched my options junk the system and go to a carb set-up w/ many intakes to choose from? Well do that and you just decreased the vaue of your vette. OR go to the X-ram or renagade intake? STILL not stock!! Well after many hours of research and discussion with the race shop I decided I would try and increase the flow rating as much as possible with the STOCK crossfire intake. Using a Holley contender intake as my goal for flow. 1st I cut the egr casing out, then cut the runners down by 1 inch removed all casting flaws, using a Dremel w/flex head curved intake ports, and CAREFULLY increased the total port volume by about 3/8" or more total. on the flow bench now out performed the Holley contender!!!!!
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May not make any difference, but I would smooth off the various raised bumps on the runners and base. Make everything smooth. Including the left over ridges from where the egr tunnel was. And, when I removed my egr tunnel, I filled in that open area between the one runner and the side wall. Filled in with epoxy. I dipped mine in a bucket of 50-50 water and muriatic acid to clean it up. Whoa what a bunch of gas fumes exploding. Moved away immediately. Made everything nice and clean inside. Then spray painted inside with high heat chrome paint just for kicks. Looked great. Probably all dirty'd up by now - 125,000 miles later.
I did smooth ALL the casting bumps and knots and crap from the casting flaws. DID'NT even cross my mind!! to fill in that BIG GAP!! where the egr was, I was so focused on the port size I over looked that! My engine is still at the race shop [waitihg on the dam weather to warm up} I' going to pull the plenum back off and fill that GAP in! Thanks for posting that! over sight by ME! could cause a lil turbulence? Learn something every day! Thanks! Larry! Us crossfire guys need all the help we can get!
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I started to do that last night with my dremel but destroyed several bits. Don't know what to use to for grinding and sanding?
Al I used up A WHOLE BUNCH of sanding disc/pads etc, etc, etc.. however on cutting the angle and knife edging the ports I used a cutter that kinda looks like a drill bit,that worked real good and lasted for the most part. Luckly for you the WORST and HARDEST part has all ready been done.
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What kind of epoxy did you use for the EGR opening??
Thats a good post an over sight by me I've used a 2 part epoxy [for steel, aluminum etc]from Auto Zone on many OTHER aluminum parts worked good for me. Comes in a 2 part tube w/ a plunger that pushes out equal amounts of hardener & resin mix it up and put it on, Takes about 2-6 hrs to get hard depending on amount used and temp.
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So good to see some guys still after good CFI solutions ..... the time and effort you're putting into your projects is commendable ...... I hope everyone gets where they want to be with your set up .........
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for those who want more info on cross-fire repairs. http://www.thecubestudio.com/Crossfi...eriesIndex.htm
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So good to see some guys still after good CFI solutions ..... the time and effort you're putting into your projects is commendable ...... I hope everyone gets where they want to be with your set up .........
The reason I took aaaaaaallll that time on the crossfire intake was IMHO too many people where knocking it and IMHO scrapping it and going to a carb set-up alot of work $$$$ and decreasing the value of the car. Going to a carb you STILL had pull the heads to port them or use a different head AND change the cam to get any real world increase in power.It's all about the combination, once you get past the flow problems on the crossfire the real gain in hp is in the heads. Personally I WOULD NOT try porting the factory heads on those cars [weak castings] LUCKLY I have alot of friends and one of them GAVE me the HEAVY casting heads I used. My good friend Mr. Joe [the OZ] Kastle the man is a genuis!! I respect that man SO MUCH his name is engraved on a plate in the engine compartment on my race car.
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for those who want more info on cross-fire repairs. http://www.thecubestudio.com/Crossfi...eriesIndex.htm
Thanks Terry for that info every lil bit helps!!!
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So good to see some guys still after good CFI solutions ..... the time and effort you're putting into your projects is commendable ...... I hope everyone gets where they want to be with your set up .........
I know some scrapped the crossfire for the tuned port$$$$$$$$$AND you still gotta go into the heads and cam! Because JUST switching to the tuned port you only gained MAYBE 30 hp and that switch is alot of money for 30 hp!?!
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for those who want more info on cross-fire repairs. http://www.thecubestudio.com/Crossfi...eriesIndex.htm
I already had MOST of that info in my files NOT all though! Thanks again!!Terry. One thing they claim not to use a dremel? on the porting I have various die-grinders but NONE of the attachment I have for the die-grinder would get all the through the port? The dremel is MORE percise albiet; TIME consuming again I WILL NOT EVER, NEVER ,EVER PORT another crossfire intake, EVER!!!!! I'm the type of person I'll go to the limit to get what I want. Even if it takes FOOOOREVER! however on that dam intake once was ENOUGH!!
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Well I've done some research on aluminum cutting tools and they are expensive. I do have a ported intake to go on but I'm gonna wait for the DCS Renegade to come out. Patience is a virtue.
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