69 ~00003
Drifting
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From: Palm Bay Florida
I did a little work on # 7 last year also a pilot car Orig 427 motor he claimed it was the earliest 69 but they are still out there waiting to be discovered. Just drive it and enjoy yourself.
Mark
Mark
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From: Westminster Maryland
Hi Jack,
The fact that the original motor that was in this car is gone has very little effect on it being a source of information for people interested in just how the first 69s were being assembled and with what parts.
How good a source it might be depends on how much of the rest of the car is still there. An increasing degree of service replacement, and replacement parts, on the car decreases the car's ability to be an indication of very early 69 production.
It might be nice if someone very knowledgable about 69 cars could take a look at it to help determine just what you have.
Do you know about the National Corvette Restorers Society? You might want to check their web-site to see what they're about. They would likely be interested in seeing your #3 built 69.
Regards,
Alan
The fact that the original motor that was in this car is gone has very little effect on it being a source of information for people interested in just how the first 69s were being assembled and with what parts.
How good a source it might be depends on how much of the rest of the car is still there. An increasing degree of service replacement, and replacement parts, on the car decreases the car's ability to be an indication of very early 69 production.
It might be nice if someone very knowledgable about 69 cars could take a look at it to help determine just what you have.
Do you know about the National Corvette Restorers Society? You might want to check their web-site to see what they're about. They would likely be interested in seeing your #3 built 69.
Regards,
Alan
Safety Car
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From: Belmar NJ
On a serious note, it might not be a bad idea to find a block and heads that are date cast correctly and "recreate" the original combination. There were over 300 changes from 68 to 69 and if one and two are nowhere to be found, you might have something there.
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Hi Jack,
The fact that the original motor that was in this car is gone has very little effect on it being a source of information for people interested in just how the first 69s were being assembled and with what parts.
How good a source it might be depends on how much of the rest of the car is still there. An increasing degree of service replacement, and replacement parts, on the car decreases the car's ability to be an indication of very early 69 production.
It might be nice if someone very knowledgable about 69 cars could take a look at it to help determine just what you have.
Do you know about the National Corvette Restorers Society? You might want to check their web-site to see what they're about. They would likely be interested in seeing your #3 built 69.
Regards,
Alan
The fact that the original motor that was in this car is gone has very little effect on it being a source of information for people interested in just how the first 69s were being assembled and with what parts.
How good a source it might be depends on how much of the rest of the car is still there. An increasing degree of service replacement, and replacement parts, on the car decreases the car's ability to be an indication of very early 69 production.
It might be nice if someone very knowledgable about 69 cars could take a look at it to help determine just what you have.
Do you know about the National Corvette Restorers Society? You might want to check their web-site to see what they're about. They would likely be interested in seeing your #3 built 69.
Regards,
Alan
http://www.c3registry.com/index.php?...te&car_id=3444
Burning Brakes
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From: Pinecrest FL
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You likely have the very first side pipe car made. Does the car have any paperwork?
'I agree...you can easily find a 350/350 block and attempt to re create the car.
Gary
'I agree...you can easily find a 350/350 block and attempt to re create the car.
Gary
Melting Slicks
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From: Lehigh county Pennsylvania
According to Rick Bizzoco's '69 Stingray Guidebook vin #700007 had a A22 build code. Pg 2 of his book. #7 was the earliest '69 seen by the author and it was a pilot job. Although his list of weekly Corvette Production chart for the week ending Friday August 23rd is zero 0.
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From: Scottsdale Arizona
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08
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So I just signed up with NCM Insurance and talking to Adam he is trying to impress upon me that I do not know what I have and how dare I use it as a daily driver (alright he did not say that but He did mention that he would not use the car as a daily driver). So Now I do not know what to think and what to do, I am going to call NCRS and get there opinion on this.
I just suggested that the car could be the earliest known 1969 around. Who knows what the purpose of the car was? Was it a pilot car, engineering car, etc. Who knows if it was an early prototype that may have tested the all new 350 engine? Who knows if it was Zora's personal engineering car? Who knows what other components were tested on the car for future production?
I was only looking out for the cars best interest..
I simply suggested that before making the car a driver it should be investigated. Maybe restore it to NCRS standards as the value of the car will be much greater.
We have plenty of cars, just unfortunately not enough room right now! We have a small hole we are dealing with! LOL!AGREE!
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08
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One thing to also consider...did this car leave GM with the correct engine? It could go either way...
L88 cars most likely don't have the original engine either, but the pedigree/history is what brings out the big bidders.
Worth exploring all options!
L88 cars most likely don't have the original engine either, but the pedigree/history is what brings out the big bidders.
Worth exploring all options!
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I think my comment was very much misconstrued.
I just suggested that the car could be the earliest known 1969 around. Who knows what the purpose of the car was? Was it a pilot car, engineering car, etc. Who knows if it was an early prototype that may have tested the all new 350 engine? Who knows if it was Zora's personal engineering car? Who knows what other components were tested on the car for future production?
I just suggested that the car could be the earliest known 1969 around. Who knows what the purpose of the car was? Was it a pilot car, engineering car, etc. Who knows if it was an early prototype that may have tested the all new 350 engine? Who knows if it was Zora's personal engineering car? Who knows what other components were tested on the car for future production?
Too bad also that you don't write insurance here in Canada, I'd sign up in a flash.
Melting Slicks
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From: Midland Ontario
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Burning Brakes
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From: Pinecrest FL
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C3 Side exhaust was avail only for the 69 model year.
Does your car have a build sheet/tank sticker?
The side exhaust aspect of your car is very significant, because according to the NCRS, the earliest known example of a sidepipe car is SN 9320.
There was a monaco orange 69 at last years NCRS kissimmee regional that was earlier and documented, so I am sure that number has changed by now.
If you do have documentation, this car could make things interesting as there are many cars prior to SN 9320 out there that could be factory N14 cars whose owners have been told that they were too early in the 69 production.
Does your car have a build sheet/tank sticker?
The side exhaust aspect of your car is very significant, because according to the NCRS, the earliest known example of a sidepipe car is SN 9320.
There was a monaco orange 69 at last years NCRS kissimmee regional that was earlier and documented, so I am sure that number has changed by now.
If you do have documentation, this car could make things interesting as there are many cars prior to SN 9320 out there that could be factory N14 cars whose owners have been told that they were too early in the 69 production.
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08
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Another thought...
Was this car one of the cars in the 1969 dealer brochure or marketing material? Today the early VIN cars are used by Chevrolet Marketing, and Captured Test Fleet vehicles....
Too many unknowns to just drive the you know what out of it...
I would get a NCRS shipping report and then contact the folks at Auto Ancestry..
http://www.autoancestry.com/
Was this car one of the cars in the 1969 dealer brochure or marketing material? Today the early VIN cars are used by Chevrolet Marketing, and Captured Test Fleet vehicles....
Too many unknowns to just drive the you know what out of it...
I would get a NCRS shipping report and then contact the folks at Auto Ancestry..
http://www.autoancestry.com/
Team Owner
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From: Southbound
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...Who knows if it was Zora's personal engineering car?...
Almost certainly and with the correct engine code and VIN derivitive on the pad.
...Was this car one of the cars in the 1969 dealer brochure or marketing material?...