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Old Aug 1, 2015 | 06:59 PM
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I'm having a heck of a time trying to separate the lower ball joint - using a pickle fork but no luck.

I'm positioning the fork under the control arm and whaling away - no go... Starting to second guess myself... Is that the right spot?

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Should note that the spring has been removed.
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Seems to be the right spot.

How else to remove?

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It appears as if I have too much play with the ball joint... Here it is compressed



And here it is separated...


Seems I cannot get enough pressure to separate them.
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Right spot.. but we usually have the spring in there and (with the nut just loosened)whack them with a hammer.

You might try your local parts store and see if they have a loaner program for a ball joint separator... Most will offer you this for free with a tool deposit and I think at the point your at you'll have better luck with this tool over using the pickle fork.

IMHO,

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So I thought I'd grab some washers from Home Depot to make a tighter fit.



Still no go I'll just wd40 it down and try tomorrow.

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I have always used 2 two-pound machinist hammers; one to back up the knuckle and one to beat on the other side of the knuckle. About 15-20 good solid WHACKS and BAM. With the spring adding a LOT of downward pressure and the nut loosened several turns the lower a-arm won't slam onto the ground.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 08:49 AM
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Hi,
I've used tbtr's method in order to preserve the original rubber boots.
Although the CSM shows the special tool the service techs used, I've always thought the 'flats' on the sides of the knuckle were to hit the hammer on.
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Here is a thread from not too long ago that has some helpful information.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...eparation.html
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there went some money

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Here's the tool I used.
When the taper finally broke loose, it sounded like a gun went off.

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-qua...html?hftref=cj
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Originally Posted by wendellp601
Here's the tool I used.
When the taper finally broke loose, it sounded like a gun went off.

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-qua...html?hftref=cj
I'm having a hard time picturing how that goes on the lower ball joint... Does it go upside down from the pict? The single "tooth" side is pushing up on the bolt?

There's a HF by my work... I'll give it a try... If that fails the whole control arm and spindle are coming off.
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi,
I've used tbtr's method in order to preserve the original rubber boots.
Although the CSM shows the special tool the service techs used, I've always thought the 'flats' on the sides of the knuckle were to hit the hammer on.
Regards,
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Thanks for the pic... There was no saving this rubber/boot. The other ball joints oozed grease, this one was dry.

As I plan on having this car for a while... I'll remember that for next time... Also to do next time... Leave spring in to help with the leverage.
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Originally Posted by jeffreyluce
The single "tooth" side is pushing up on the bolt?
That's right.
Get it good and tight, then tighten it some more.
I used an impact wrench.
Once you've got some good pressure on it, smack the spindle with a hammer in the spot noted earlier.
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So I purchased the 3/4" ball joint separator from Harbor Freight... Bought another 2 lb hammer and a torch from Home Depot.

Put the separator on the joint like this


Would line up the 2lb hammer on the spindle bump - then whack the 2 lb with a 3 lb hammer... If it didn't loosen, take a few turns + heat.



Final pict


One thing to note - all this hammering over the weekend has hurt my left ear, so today I wore earplugs while hammering.
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Now that the spindle is off, need to do other side... Hopefully this weekend I can get the control arms off.

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I had problem child original ball joints as well.
Used my big impact to run the nut up real tight and then backed it off.
The next hit of the pickle fork popped it loose like butter.
Apparently pushing up helped break that taper.

The 2 hammer trick always worked before but these were a pita.
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Originally Posted by jeffreyluce
Now that the spindle is off, need to do other side... Hopefully this weekend I can get the control arms off.

Good deal - you hung in there and got it out.
You may want to take some emery cloth or a Scotch Brite Pad to the female tapers on the knuckle if you reuse it.
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Originally Posted by wendellp601
Good deal - you hung in there and got it out.
You may want to take some emery cloth or a Scotch Brite Pad to the female tapers on the knuckle if you reuse it.
Yes will be reusing the spindle after I clean it up.... Curious though can you take it apart without drilling out the rivets? I see bolts on the backside... Are there bolts that I need to get to that are blocked by the rotor?
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Yes will be reusing the spindle after I clean it up.... Curious though can you take it apart without drilling out the rivets? I see bolts on the backside... Are there bolts that I need to get to that are blocked by the rotor?
The bolts are holding the dust shield.
You can get to them when you remove the grease cap and then the cotter pin / castle nut to pull off the rotor / hub.
You don't have to drill out the rivets unless you're changing the rotor.
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