Help with a unusual barn find
#601
Burning Brakes
For the odors in the seats, try taking the covers off and put them in a plastic bag with some charcoal briquettes (not the self lighting kind), tie it closed for a few days or a week. I've used charcoal to get the smell of rotting meat out of a freezer (Power was off about a week or two, rotted meat odor was pretty bad). You may just need to replace the foam in the seats as you probably won't be able to get the odor out of the foam as it's open cell and just acts like a sponge.
#603
Racer
Unfortunately, when it comes to really bad odors on something as simple as stock seats, might be better off just replacing the foam and covers. I know you're not trying to restore the car but some things might not be worth the effort to clean over and over, especially since they appear to be out of the car. If you happen to overcome the smell by other means then good deal! If not, the seats are really quite simple to re-foam and re-cover. I'm sure you'll let us know how things go.
#604
Instructor
Ozone generator will take care of that. That is the way car dealers get smoke stink out of trade-ins.
Don't run it for more than an hour.
I run mine with the car running and the vent fan on high. Roll up the windows and let the ozone do the rest. This will kill all the smell in the seats, in the vents, carpet. under the dash, etc.
Don't run it for more than an hour.
I run mine with the car running and the vent fan on high. Roll up the windows and let the ozone do the rest. This will kill all the smell in the seats, in the vents, carpet. under the dash, etc.
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Pvirg (07-17-2017)
#606
Racer
Thread Starter
Update
Motor is apart, expert is amazed. "State of the art" He is having a great time finding all the tricks from the day. Actually says it was way ahead of its time. One of the things my friend said he helped GM develop was D port heads. Has them. Builder says the cost to build this motor would have been astronomical! Special thanks to GM and Diamond! More details later.
Also update on the smell. The coffee seems to be working! Well that and hours of scrubbing. Now smells like my Grandmas kitchen in the morning.
I can't believe I didn't get a pic of the D port, sorry I will next time.
Also update on the smell. The coffee seems to be working! Well that and hours of scrubbing. Now smells like my Grandmas kitchen in the morning.
I can't believe I didn't get a pic of the D port, sorry I will next time.
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#607
Le Mans Master
Nice!! Casting number on the heads or did they "conveniently" miss that? I see they used studs on the hidden head bolts too.
#608
todays my birthday and I just read all 31 pages and had to make an account just to say this is like the best story ever I hope to continue to see updates until I can meet her in person. shes a beauty
#609
Keep the updates coming!
Love hearing stories like this. Hopefully you are able to restore this piece of history, but if not, I'm sure the Corvette Museum wouldn't mind being included somehow so it can be shared with the world!
#610
Racer
Thread Starter
Update
Heads are about done. Builder was amazed at the work put into them. Making them D port (which was one of my friends projects with GM) look and look at the size of the valves. It is coming along very nicely.
Shout out to metalhead, he always seems to dig the motor stuff! Thanks Dude
Shout out to metalhead, he always seems to dig the motor stuff! Thanks Dude
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#613
Racer
Thread Starter
#614
Safety Car
Motor is apart, expert is amazed. "State of the art" He is having a great time finding all the tricks from the day. Actually says it was way ahead of its time. One of the things my friend said he helped GM develop was D port heads. Has them. Builder says the cost to build this motor would have been astronomical! Special thanks to GM and Diamond! More details later.
Also update on the smell. The coffee seems to be working! Well that and hours of scrubbing. Now smells like my Grandmas kitchen in the morning.
I can't believe I didn't get a pic of the D port, sorry I will next time.
Also update on the smell. The coffee seems to be working! Well that and hours of scrubbing. Now smells like my Grandmas kitchen in the morning.
I can't believe I didn't get a pic of the D port, sorry I will next time.
FYI those roller bearings are a real PITA to get installed straight in the block.... if one gets broken or damaged..... there are no more, so if he hasn't removed them from the block I would advise to leave them alone.
Crower came out with that set up back in the mid 1960s and continued production until the mid 1970's..... It took a while to realized that reducing the cam journal OD, so they could fit the roller bearing in the stock size cam bearing housing of the block, was a bad idea for rigidity of the camshaft and that roller bearings actually have more associated friction than a properly working sliding bearing.
This same concept made the rounds again in racing engines during the late 1990's thru mid 2000's but sliding bearings have once again proven to be superior in all but a few cases.
Will
Last edited by rklessdriver; 08-11-2017 at 08:19 PM.
#615
Instructor
Prvig: Just a thought for you to consider. The drag racing community is a very tight niche group, especially in the Ohio Valley area. Sure, they'll fight like heck at the track, and some may be mortal enemies, but, it's kinda hard to explain, but there's a bond between them all. If one racer needs help, there's probably ten competitors right beside him offering whatever they can. I'd be willing to bet my finished 77 title (a long way off still) that if you reached out to the old guys he raced with, you would be blown away by the support they would give. And PLEASE, if you do, take into consideration the fact that most of these guys were just farmers, or auto mechanics, or pipefitters by trade. They worked their *** off during the day, just to survive and feed the family, and hopefully have enough left over to replace the bearing going out on the drag car. These guys were the real deal, and their time has passed, but I bet a lot of them would love the chance to get back involved however they could. There's a ton of stories, and precedent out there for the taking. I say all this because as soon as I saw the pic of the general doing the wheelie stand, I knew I had seen this car before. I'm pretty sure I watched the general run at Windy Hollow, although I would have been young and dumb at the time. So I looked into Doyle's race career. Without digging very deep, found that he ran with all the same names I grew up hearing about. Most of my best friends dads were drag racers, and all us kids liked to hang out in the garage with them prepping their cars. ( It was pretty easy to sneak a few beers from them after about 10 pm) It never failed that another racer would show up, looking for parts. Always the same response, " I have this, this, and this. If this wont work for ya, go see so and so, they prolly have it"
Although Doyle was sponsored by GM sorta, I'm sure he was still a part of this rag tag group of hard core racers who, I can promise you, are some of the best people you could ever meet.
edit: After posting this I went to work cleaning parts for the vette, as I'm grinding away it occurs to me that this was the same group of people that popularized the LOVE/HATE tattoo. Love was tattooed on the knuckles of the right hand, and Hate was on the left. The saying was,,, If the right one don't getcha,,,,, then the left one will. I was once knocked clean out of a chair by a guy who I would still trust with my life if need be. Life's funny ain't it.
Although Doyle was sponsored by GM sorta, I'm sure he was still a part of this rag tag group of hard core racers who, I can promise you, are some of the best people you could ever meet.
edit: After posting this I went to work cleaning parts for the vette, as I'm grinding away it occurs to me that this was the same group of people that popularized the LOVE/HATE tattoo. Love was tattooed on the knuckles of the right hand, and Hate was on the left. The saying was,,, If the right one don't getcha,,,,, then the left one will. I was once knocked clean out of a chair by a guy who I would still trust with my life if need be. Life's funny ain't it.
Last edited by badapplegolf; 08-13-2017 at 07:20 PM.
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Pvirg (08-13-2017)
#616
Racer
Thread Starter
Prvig: Just a thought for you to consider. The drag racing community is a very tight niche group, especially in the Ohio Valley area. Sure, they'll fight like heck at the track, and some may be mortal enemies, but, it's kinda hard to explain, but there's a bond between them all. If one racer needs help, there's probably ten competitors right beside him offering whatever they can. I'd be willing to bet my finished 77 title (a long way off still) that if you reached out to the old guys he raced with, you would be blown away by the support they would give. And PLEASE, if you do, take into consideration the fact that most of these guys were just farmers, or auto mechanics, or pipefitters by trade. They worked their *** off during the day, just to survive and feed the family, and hopefully have enough left over to replace the bearing going out on the drag car. These guys were the real deal, and their time has passed, but I bet a lot of them would love the chance to get back involved however they could. There's a ton of stories, and precedent out there for the taking. I say all this because as soon as I saw the pic of the general doing the wheelie stand, I knew I had seen this car before. I'm pretty sure I watched the general run at Windy Hollow, although I would have been young and dumb at the time. So I looked into Doyle's race career. Without digging very deep, found that he ran with all the same names I grew up hearing about. Most of my best friends dads were drag racers, and all us kids liked to hang out in the garage with them prepping their cars. ( It was pretty easy to sneak a few beers from them after about 10 pm) It never failed that another racer would show up, looking for parts. Always the same response, " I have this, this, and this. If this wont work for ya, go see so and so, they prolly have it"
Although Doyle was sponsored by GM sorta, I'm sure he was still a part of this rag tag group of hard core racers who, I can promise you, are some of the best people you could ever meet.
edit: After posting this I went to work cleaning parts for the vette, as I'm grinding away it occurs to me that this was the same group of people that popularized the LOVE/HATE tattoo. Love was tattooed on the knuckles of the right hand, and Hate was on the left. The saying was,,, If the right one don't getcha,,,,, then the left one will. I was once knocked clean out of a chair by a guy who I would still trust with my life if need be. Life's funny ain't it.
Although Doyle was sponsored by GM sorta, I'm sure he was still a part of this rag tag group of hard core racers who, I can promise you, are some of the best people you could ever meet.
edit: After posting this I went to work cleaning parts for the vette, as I'm grinding away it occurs to me that this was the same group of people that popularized the LOVE/HATE tattoo. Love was tattooed on the knuckles of the right hand, and Hate was on the left. The saying was,,, If the right one don't getcha,,,,, then the left one will. I was once knocked clean out of a chair by a guy who I would still trust with my life if need be. Life's funny ain't it.
So, anyone who has a friend who raced 60's-70's please print a picture and show them. See if they recall the car. I know it was as far as California, Indy, Ohio, Kentucky...
Thank you very much for posting. It's exciting for me when someone has seen the car running.
I came to the Corvette forum looking for help like this. Please forgive me for not saying THANK YOU everyone enough.
#617
Racer
Thread Starter
Magneto or MSD?
Decision time, while I'm trying to keep the car original (as it was raced)
The builder has a great point. It will be very tough to start, and will not want to be driven at low rpm as the magneto will want rpms to generate spark. A new msd box and distributor will fix all that BUT it's not original. I want to be able to move the car and drive it on show/cruse grounds....
If I do go the msd route I will keep the magneto and it can be put back on.
I'm asking for thoughts on this.
Thank you!
The builder has a great point. It will be very tough to start, and will not want to be driven at low rpm as the magneto will want rpms to generate spark. A new msd box and distributor will fix all that BUT it's not original. I want to be able to move the car and drive it on show/cruse grounds....
If I do go the msd route I will keep the magneto and it can be put back on.
I'm asking for thoughts on this.
Thank you!
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Pegan2261 (08-31-2022)
#618
Drifting
Something that had drivability would be good. Could go with some sort of unit from that time period, think that Crane, Mallory, and others had higher energy spark boxes that may be period correct.
Are you planning on making any hits on the strip with it? If not you could tone down the cam and compression and have a little better manners. Not saying it will be a cruiser, but something that won't need a loan to fill up.
Are you planning on making any hits on the strip with it? If not you could tone down the cam and compression and have a little better manners. Not saying it will be a cruiser, but something that won't need a loan to fill up.
#619
Team Owner
Although some of today's electronic ignitions are superior to an old school magneto, I can understand your desire to keep the car "period correct". I was involved with an oval track car, back in the 80s, and we ran with a magneto, on a small block Chevy engine. The car, naturally, wasn't at high RPM all the time, such as driving in the pits, etc, and we didn't have any real issues.
Maybe you might want to have your "mag" looked over, before using it.
Maybe you might want to have your "mag" looked over, before using it.