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Took my 81 out for a drive today, everything good. Turned on the radio and the antenna went up like it should. Came home after about 19 miles, pulled into the shed and turned the radio off. But, the antenna did not go down. So, I turned the radio back on and NOTHING. No radio, no interior lights and electric antenna does not work.
I checked the repair manual and found the 3 fuses connected with the radio, they are all good. I even replaced them anyway. Still nothing, antenna is stuck in the up position. Anyone have any ideas on what else I can check. I think I found a relay under the car back in the antenna area and also found a fuse back there that is also good. TIA
Your antenna really should be under your hand brake cover.
Are your interior lights working now????
There should NOT be a fuse back by your antenna....or at least I KNOW the facotry did not put one there.
Just because you repacked the fuses DOES NOT mean that the POWER that feeds one side of the fuse is there. YOU have to check and make sure that you have POWER on one of the terminals of the fuse.
I believe...if my memory serves me correctly...your antenna is controlled by the CTSY/CLK
fuse....and IT should have battery power on one of the terminals WITHOUT the key being on.
Antenna relay should be in the compartment behind the passenger seat (with the intermittent wiper module and factory alarm unit)
Btu like yours mine also had a second relay at the antenna, because someone put the wrong one in and the operation of it was reversed. But that's sorted now.
As Dub said check the fuse in the fuse box, since there's a few things not going that's likely to be the cause.
Thanks guys I will check that out this afternoon after work. I did check the CTSY?CLK fuse and it was good. I will check it later today and see if there is power on one side of the terminal without the key on.
Dub,
I just checked the fuse, I removed the CTSY?CLK fuse and checked the 2 brass lugs where the fuse pins make contact. One of them has 12.48 Volts a and the other does not. This is with the key removed from the ignition. So, could this possibly a bad relay of an fuse-able link?
As you can tell by now I suck at electrical problems. I did all the mechanical work on the car myself, new crate motor and complete front end, but when it comes to electrical I am lost. And at 71 years old I do not think I have enough time left to learn!! Thanks again.
ANTZ81,
Yep, I found the stuff in the compartment behind the passengers seat, can you tell me which one is the antenna relay? say form sitting in the drivers seat, left, middle or right side component. I will just replace it if I can find a new one some place on line. Thanks very much.
Dub,
I just checked the fuse, I removed the CTSY?CLK fuse and checked the 2 brass lugs where the fuse pins make contact. One of them has 12.48 Volts a and the other does not. This is with the key removed from the ignition. So, could this possibly a bad relay of an fuse-able link?
If you made the measurement with the fuse out then only one will have voltage. As long as the fuse is good the you should be getting power out. Does the cigarette lighter have power? Does the horn work? What about power door locks(if fitted)? these are all on the same fuse But you haven't mentioned them. If you pull out the glove box liner you should be able to get to the delay timer for the courtesy lights, You should have 12v on the orange wire.
Originally Posted by Richard Cooper
ANTZ81,
Yep, I found the stuff in the compartment behind the passengers seat, can you tell me which one is the antenna relay? say form sitting in the drivers seat, left, middle or right side component. I will just replace it if I can find a new one some place on line. Thanks very much.
The Relay is the middle one, but that would only stop the antenna from going up and down. It wouldn't explain everything else not working. So I would leave it for now.
See if the color of the wires that are going IN your antenna are (white, gray and green).
If they are...then it is a facotry antenna.
We are kinda flying blind here without being able to see what you are seeing.
You CTSY/CLK fuse was fine...you should have battery voltage on one of the terminals with the fuse out.
When you find the antenna relay....ONE of the TWO plug in connectors with have the three wires ( white, gray and green)....which are the wires that are going to your antenna. You should see an ORANGE WIRE...which is being powered by your CTSY/CLK fuse...and should have battery voltage at it with the fuse in. The PINK wire with the ORANGE wire is the control wire from your radio...which is controlling the relay and making the antenna go up and down. And then you have a BLACK wire that is a ground. The ORANGE,PINK and BLACK wires are in a connector all together and also plug into the relay.
Fixed....
Guys, I cannot explain this but just by accident I fixed it. As I said in my first post, I found 3 fuses that are radio, antenna and interior light related. I checked that all and they were good. last night I went back out to the shed and started playing around again. I somehow managed to get myself right up near the fuse box. The previous owner had removed all the AC equipment except for the condenser, and I have left it that way.
I just happen to start checking all the fuses and found the 20 amp fuse in the AC spot was bad. I removed it and as soon as I put in the new 20 amp fuse the antenna went down and everything worked!! I have no idea how they are connected, but they are! I removed the fuse and everything was dead again.
Dub & ANTZ81,
Really, that you for all your help and time. I do appreciate because like I previously said, I am lost when it comes to the electrical. I do not understand what the AC fuse had to do with anything, but everything is working fine now. So, thank a million.
I printed out all the reply's you both gave me, just in case there is a next time.
have a GREAT FATHERS DAY.
Glad you got it fixed...but if you can...if you could take a photo and have a pointer pointing to the fuse that you replaced and made everything work again.
Glad you got it fixed...but if you can...if you could take a photo and have a pointer pointing to the fuse that you replaced and made everything work again.
DUB
I could not get a good picture of the fuse box, so last night I removed the front seat so I could get in there better. I did not get the seat remover until late, so I will get a picture later on today for you after work.
Thanks again for all your help.
DUB,
Here is a picture of the fuse box and the fuse I replaced to make the radio & antenna work. If you look at the picture up in the rightt hand top you can see the fuse marked "ECM", the fuse just to the right of the ECM is the one I replaced. It was a 20 AMP fuse and I think it was for Heat/AC.
I really hope you get this picture because I had no idea how to get it on her. I had to wait for my wife to get home from work last night to do it for me.
Hey Richard.
To post pics from your computer, click on new reply which brings up this window I am typing in right now.
Scroll down to the window below it where it says "Additional Options"
Look for "Attach Files"
Click on "Manage Attachments"
It will open another window offering to "Upload File from your computer"
Hit the browse button
Find the pic on your computer you want to add.
Click on it to load the title of it next to the Browse line.
You can add several pics using same process.
Click on "Upload"
Uploading in progress will display...takes a minute or so.
Then it is attached to the message you just typed in this window.
(Note: if pics are too large pixels wise, you may have to go back to that pic on your computer and compress it....but that is a whole 'nother story)
Cheers!
Bman
Sorry for hijack but I like sharing this little trick with as many as possible......
Last edited by bmans vette; Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 PM.
Hey Richard.
To post pics from your computer, click on new reply which brings up this window I am typing in right now.
Scroll down to the window below it where it says "Additional Options"
Look for "Attach Files"
Click on "Manage Attachments"
It will open another window offering to "Upload File from your computer"
Hit the browse button
Find the pic on your computer you want to add.
Click on it to load the title of it next to the Browse line.
You can add several pics using same process.
Click on "Upload"
Uploading in progress will display...takes a minute or so.
Then it is attached to the message you just typed in this window.
(Note: if pics are too large pixels wise, you may have to go back to that pic on your computer and compress it....but that is a whole 'nother story)
Cheers!
Bman
Sorry for hijack but I like sharing this little trick with as many as possible......
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